From Patchouli to Prada (Clooney’s “mystery” girl?)
FOREWARD:
*Broadcast Temporarily Interrrupted*
I can understand that some may have chosen to add malicious attacks and comments under this article but I don’t plan to respond to them, unless of course they are directed towards me and then…I might, because then it’s just funny. You may feel that my intentions in this article may have been dishonorable at best, but I wish no ill will towards anyone.
Sarah may have rubbed me the wrong way at times but I have no negative feelings towards her, believe it or not. I wasn’t going to come out here like Capt. Save-a-ho and write an article defending random attacks by strangers on the internet when I wrote it, but I was trying to humanize this rampant frenzy to search out her history and to stabilize it if I could. I tried to show her in the truthful light of someone that everyone could be familiar with. No need to turn her into a GOD or to turn her into a DEMON. She’s just a regular ass human, and guess what?….so is George Clooney.
If you are tremendously hurt or inspired by anything either of them do that is broadcasted through the media which paints them in either light, the only real problems that you have do not come from these people, who you will never likely come in contact with in real life, it comes for your own issues. There’s a show for that, it’s called Dr. Phil. Sorry they cancelled Lilith Fair.
I will not censor your comments, I am against that fully, but don’t expect me to feed into them either, positively or negatively. Maybe another mistake on my part is that I am failing to remove this article, but I do take great time and effort to compose my articles and thoughts and I view them as my own form of art. Words to me are something that I can form and something that I can create or express with, even if I can’t afford a $2,500 wacom tablet or expensive musical equipment. If you think my writing is shit…that’s cool. I think most film today is shit and most of the celebrities that people worship are talentless hacks. This is my forum which you are welcome to visit and comment on as you see fit. That’s all that it is; that and a forum for friends of mine whose views that I respect. I hope people are enjoying it. Maybe you’ll enjoy another article, maybe you don’t give a fuck. Either way thanks for visiting and I appreciate your time.
Now that I’ve said that, you are very welcome to continue
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I woke up Saturday morning when my phone rang at 9:13 pacific standard time. It was a message from my friend KB Smooth texting me from Rhode Island. The message said “Sarah Larson is dating George Clooney…” I got up and went to my computer. I searched on line to find pictures of Sarah and Clooney at a celebrity coctail party in Venice for the release of his new film Michael Clayton, where they were hanging out with Spike Lee, Bill Murray, and Richard Gere. Everything else that I found on the internet about her dating Clooney, refers to her as a “mystery girl“. No one seems to know anything about her except her name and age (28) but they seem to be searching frantically. Some refer to her as a possible “Go-Go dancer” but without confirmation. I don’t understand the intense interest, but I can say one thing; she’s not much of a fucking mystery. I’ve known her since she was 10.
The main difference was that she had a side-pontytail when I met her 2 years prior. The photo above is from our 7th grade Junior High year book. You may be thinking, “Damn! That’s fucked up. I can’t believe you posted that photo on the internet.” If you have this year book, then you know that I don’t have room to talk shit because my picture is actually worse. Yeah, I know, it was 1991 and it was a long time ago. If you think about it though, what’s really fucked up is that, at the time when the picture was taken, George Clooney was already a suave 30 yr old adult man with sideburns who was playing Booker Brookes on Roseanne. That’s 2 years older than Sarah is right now. When I was 6 years old and pretending that I was StreetHawk, this cat actually got to appear on an episode. That same year he started his 2 year run on the Facts of Life for crissakes! If Alan Thicke wrote the theme song to a show that you were a major character on, then you’ve been around for a minute. Hell, he was even getting acting gigs before I was a fetus floating next to a dangerous IUD.It’s wierd seeing somebody that you’ve known for almost 20 years in photographs romantically linking them with an Oscar winner. Sarah and I have attended the same schools since elementary and all the way up through college. We even lived in the same house at one point. She dated a former bandmate of mine for 6 years and was my ex-girlfriend’s best friend for years as well. We’ve been on road trips. Now everyone is so fascinated with her. I know why the people who know her are, but the rest of you…what’s the deal? What the fuck do you really want to know? She’s just some broad from Kent, a town located between Seattle and Tacoma Washington. A town, when we were growing up there, that had something to prove. When people live in a suburb like that, they like nothing more than to go to parties, get drunk off of their parents shitty beer and punch eachother in the throat.
The same day I found out about her new popularity, my mom told me that she was on the cover of People magazine and, later on E!, she was shown in a brief clip. I had been at work all day, however, before I left I had emailed a couple of publications stating simply that I knew her. I got a response and I spoke on the phone a couple of times with one publication in particular. It was insane. I was just interested in the process at first but I started to get swept away with the whole situation. I held back with info trying to see what they would say to me and, basically, trying to read the British man on the other end of the line. It was a little shady right off the bat. I got questions like “Would you say she was a maneater?” and gave responses like, “Um…no, I wouldn’t say that she was a ‘man eater‘…” Eventually, after being awakened early on my day off with a phone call, I said that I wouldn’t link him up with an ex-boyfriend of hers unless I heard something solid instead of bullshit. I got a monetary offer and a contract was sent to my friend. I don’t like feeling like I’m on the other end of a hustle and, although money is nice, neither of us (the ex-boyfriend and I) were out to destroy or hurt anyone, so we basically both decided not to take the cash or to deal with them further. Plus, when you sign a contract like that, there is a clause where you can’t speak about your story to anyone for at least 3 months afterwards. That means that if they twist your shit around, which they will inevitably do, you can’t make a rebuttal anywhere else publically. Fuck it! It wasn’t enough to build my bronze statue in which I’m holding a giant lazer anyway. I’m spilling my guts here instead. In my own forum and in the appropriate context. I don’t really “hate” anyone, but I do know that all of this shit is going to be pouring out soon from one direction or another.
I lived in a house near Lake Meridian and Sarah lived about 3 houses away. Her family was nice enough and she was the oldest of 3 sisters. She also has a little brother and a step dad. Her mom had remarried after a divorce due to Sarah’s dad being gay and remarrying another man. It was actually very interesting because he had lived for a long time with the AIDS virus and, as I recall, scientists were interested in finding out why so that they could learn something more about the disease. I believe that he eventually died around 2002 or ’03. This should be the one thing, if anything, that should really draw some sympathy for her, but I don’t know how something like that is printed for a headline. It’s most likely in a shady manner, and I know that the tabloids are already aware of this to a certain degree because I was asked directly about it.
There is a post from a guy calling himself Pizza T on the internet, who not only calls himself a “hippy thug” but also claims that he dated Sarah for 6 years. Sites are wondering if it’s true because they haven’t been able to “confirm” it. Fuck, I’ll “confirm” it right now. It’s true. Their relationship started in High School. Our high school was fucked up too. You were either living in a country club, crazy ghetto broke and hood, or stuck being left in the middle like the rest of us. I was even supposed to walk at graduation with Sarah but, since the school hated me, I was barely allowed to walk at all. I walked by myself as the last student behind a kid in a wheel chair.
Sarah wasn’t rocking $3 million dollars worth of Bulgari jewels back then, she was wearing hemp necklaces, listening to the Grateful Dead, and attending Phish concerts. When I was 18 I got in my car with some friends, her boyfriend at the time included, and I travelled around California for about 3 months, scamming fast food, sleeping in my Datsun 510 with the fake Jaguar hood ornament, using psychedelics, and getting into free concerts. Sarah made a few trips down from Kent to see Tommy (Pizza T) visit, camp, etc. I wasn’t in a band with Tommy yet, but the majority of the people on the trip were. The band was called MUSIC and we would set up shows and they would play them in random towns we’d hit up on the trip. We were notorious for making offensive and/or low quality flyers to advertise. It was 1997 and quite a few such flyers that we made were contsructed from game pieces for contests at a fast food chain that I used to like to scam food from. The game pieces had photos of characters from a big movie that was out that summer. The movie was Batman and Robin starring, none other than George Clooney.
This photo of Sarah above is from that summer tour. It was taken at a spot called Whole in the Wall in Garberville, Ca where we had all slept that night. Some random middle aged naked guy showed up and decided to lounge out for a tan and we actually only took this picture of her so that we could snap him in it and remember that day. That brings me to a quick point. Sarah looks a lot tanner now and her hair isn’t blonde anymore, like it used to be. Another issue that it brings up is that, this was taken 10 years ago and I can’t seem to easily find any pictures of her that are more recent. She was there all of time but nobody seemed to feel the need to hold on to any pictures of her. Around this time I was closer to almost anyone else but her. I was a lot closer with her boyfriend and I actually met him through her. She, unfortunately, began to take on more of the role as someone’s girlfriend who complained a lot. The girl who, when everyone was hanging out and being dirty and happy and crazy and whatever else, seem to be bringing people down. We didn’t give a fuck about anything back then. It was a good time, in fact, it will always be one of the best times of my life. Things were new and exciting, but the metalic nagging shriek of, “TOMMY!” will always ring around like loose change in my memory bank. She was becoming a girl who’s bullshit and complaining sucked everyone into the drama of a relationship that they weren’t even in, through mere proximaty. This feeling continued pretty much until the last time I saw her which was years and years later.
Sure, we’ve kicked it by ourselves in more that one situation and gotten along alright, so I can definitely say that having a significant other there to fire off demands at played a part in lowering her social value, and that’s understandable. She has also played a mediator in a few situations of drama, but I wouldn’t say that was enough to cancel out the amount of drama that she had, at times, created herself. This is why I guarantee her past to unfold in no time. If you are one of the friends that was bitched about, or had to be approached by your friend on behalf of his girlfriend The 2 Coreys style, you have quite a bit of built up anger towards her. If you remember some of the specific drama you might be ready to blow.
Everyone knew she was prone to complaining and frustration, but when “Pizza T” arrived to school at Green River Community College one day after she had punched him in the face and left noticeable proof, it took it to another level. Obviously, he didn’t want to talk about it for too long at the time, it’s not the proudest moment you can have, but he did tell me what happened. She simply got upset about something trivial and punched him. Later, he called her out saying things like, “You fucking punched me in the head, Sarah!” It reminded me of Nanny 911 where things have gone too far and you can’t reverse time, all you can do is try to explain why what they did was excessive and wrong, all the while knowing that you can’t teach them why it’s wrong but can only help them learn that they can’t pull shit like that anymore. Later when we all moved to Olympia to attend The Evergreen State College shit escalated.
A bunch of us lived in a house on North St. across from a Masonic Lodge and down the street from the old Tumwater Brewery. It was a house where the rent was cheap because, otherwise, the owners would have had to pay to make it liveable for humans. There was a giant marijuana tapestry on the ceiling of the living room and from the street, you could see armed Marines in camo face-paint, which were cut from recruitment posters and taped in the windows like they were guarding the house. It was a shit hole and I slept on a couch that was always at least a little damp for some reason. A far cry from a Venice Coctail party. Sarah was always a little high maintenance for our crew, yet she lived in shitty places like this with us. She would talk with Tommy about how she wanted things in the house to be a certain way, or someone to move out, etc. etc. but she moved into a house that others lived in and tried to change it. Everyone else wanted her out because she would yell at everyone. General rule of thumb for anyone: If someone is not fucking you then they don’t have to put up with your shit. It got to the point where, if she ever even approached me with anything I would respond bluntly and firm to whatever she said, and make it clear that I wasn’t going to go into a conversation and listen to any of it. If I didn’t already agree, I don’t already agree, I don’t want anyone to try and work me over. She eventually moved out. She always needed everyone to tend to her and people weren’t getting sympathetic, they were getting pissed. Her powers didn’t work on me. She was just some chick I’d known for years and I was never attracted to her. She always kind of looked like a Gelfling to me anyway, but if she could work sympathy out of her looks she would have. You can’t really blame her, people adjust by what they are shown in through environments.
Sarah eventually rented a room in a house where one of our other good friends and former roommates had moved. There was a garage turned dance studio there. Sarah was still sewing up sundresses and trying to be earthy. She was studying an East Indian dance called Orisi which she would often bust out in the most innappropriate moments. Her “best friend” was my live-in girlfriend and we had our own place at that time. There were situations where I would reluctantly agree to go over to her place and have dinner. She would subtley put down my girlfriend in front of her and would always seem to try and show off her dance moves or body in some way. If I left the room to sit down, she would be in front of me in minutes shaking her hips and blocking my views/pathways. I wanted to put a gun to my dome in those situations. Sarah had made a few advances or inappropriate gestures towards me, even in front of the girlfriend and regardless of the fact that her boyfriend and I were friends. I became resentful in ways because, to me, it seemed like she could be very domineering towards my lady. I always felt that she would use her to make herself feel better. Her advances towards me may not have been necessarily “sexual”, but they were definitely innappropriate. I honestly believe that at the heart of everything was a need for focus and attention to be on her. I don’t think that she could even accept that someone loved someone else that was a good friend of hers, because the attention wasn’t all about her. It wasn’t about me or anyone else, I don’t think, I think it was about having the focus towards her at all times. If you disrespect someone that I love, I lose respect for you, it’s that simple. It’s quite possible that she had a lot going on, herself, that she didn’t verbalize within my earshot.
Sarah eventually hooked up with our former roommate of ours that she was living with in the new house now. Tommy found out and all hell broke loose, as you could imagine. They had been together for 6 years and it ended like that. At that point I was in a band with Pizza T and he would make all of his dramatic and drawn out phonecalls to her from my house. This was probably because I had more of a chill and welcoming environment to deal with such manners in than the chaotic environment he was living in. This was a bad time for me because, since Sarah was “best friends” with my girlfriend, she was always over as well. This drama eminated from my house and I didn’t want it there. I would often comment that I didn’t feel comfortable with her coming over anymore.
I’m still friends with the guy she wound up hooking up with, in fact. I haven’t even talked to Tommy in 2 years. We had a huge falling out which resulted in him blocking me from accessing our bands myspace page and posting bulletins and emails telling everyone (approx. 4,000 fans) that I had died of AIDS. Yeah, were are not friends, but that doesn’t mean that I’m not going to tell this story the way that I saw it. He got fucked over pretty hard and took it pretty hard. The guy she had transitioned to is the one that I’ve been talking with and who turned down offers to talk with publications. Interesting things are coming out from talks with everyone about this whole Clooney situation. The second boyfriend told me that he didn’t even know, until I just told him, that Sarah was still dating Tommy when they hooked up. I was catching the situation from all angles so I know that he sure as fuck thought they were. She said that they hadn’t been together for 3 months but I saw them together all of the time just prior. My girlfriend had seen them together regularly too, but she would relay bullshit like that to me from Sarah. “Well, she says they haven’t been together for 3 months.” Whatever. That’s a random things that some women decide. Don’t guess when you started dating ever! You started dating the minute that they decided that they wanted to in their own heads. Same thing when you break up. If they had decided at some point that they should break up with you and then find someone that they would rather fuck, it’s over and they “already told you“. It helps if they cut you off for a week or so first. That way they can always say that you knew about it. The logic is more than flawed, sure, but I can’t even say that she didn’t believe it. My girlfriend eventually went batshit psycho crazy and disappeared from our home one day. I should have seen it coming she used that same logic on me eventually. Another thing that they both did have in common as friends was that they were a little flighty. They hardcore believed in fairies and wanted to do shit like, “paint magic in the woods” or whatever other mystical bullshit they could think of. My ex-girlfriend once told me that she had actually left milk out for those fucking fairies and Sarah would tell me about transcending her physical body and travelling in spirit form around her house. Maybe they believe that they didn’t cheat on anyone. I don’t know maybe they didn’t. Maybe we don’t have the “magic potions” to see reality. Maybe, but I took the same “magic potions” that they did and probably more of it.
This was all around 2001. From a psychological standpoint, I would say the following. Sarah had been in a 6 year relationship and wanted to move out of it into something “new”. Tommy had the same issues, this was their only really serious relationship. The problems were that she didn’t have the integrity or sense to handle it correctly, from what I saw, and he was allowing it to continue and to be disrepected out of fear of the unknown without her. That’s what happens. It’s your first serious relationship. I got fucked over myself, it’s logical. Sometimes people actually don’t know how to hurt someone to theri face and make young, foolish decisions. Sarah‘s rude awakening happened when she thought that she could pull the same shit on the new guy and it didn’t fly. I know that she had lashed out and tried to strike him in the past too. He blocked it once and she hurt her self. She wasn’t always out punching everyone and being violent, but she was definitely known to trip and act a fool. She had become accustomed to having someone take whatever abuse she chose to dish out, and so she vented in that manner. He kicked her to the curb. The two guy’s became friends again and I saw Sarah out of default, until my girlfriend cooked us up lives as transient mental basketcases.
Last time that I saw Sarah was right after she hooked up with some goon named Dan Randolph. I met him twice, I think. I believe that they came into the Rang Dong once which, in it’s heyday, was the greatest Vietnamese Karaoke bar of all time. He didn’t seem to be very interesting or fitting. They moved to Vegas. Next I hear, she’s on Fear Factor shortly after. She actually wins after that guy basically carries her. Here’s where some debate comes into play. The Fear Factor site labels Sarah Larson as a “Go-Go dancer“. Pizza T‘s letter denies this claim, but it’s just wishful thinking. How would he know? Sorry but it’s true. If you don’t want to hear that and you believe that everything you’ve read on the internet is true, you can stop now. I died of AIDS 2 years ago, so who gives a shit about what I’m about to type anyway? A source I know who worked at the production company for Fear Factor told me that she was scouted Go-Go dancing. I was informed that they actually had to call her down off of a pole to offer her a spot on the show. The problem with tabloids and media is that it’s like the game of telephone. Go-go dancer can be changed very easily into a stripper when skewed. From there, that get’s morphed into hooker and eventually you are a crack whore murderer running a child-porn ring. Apparently, Cocktail waitress gets morphed into Actress/Model fairly easily too, because as far as anyone I know is informed, that’s a load of bullshit too. That’s why nobody can find anything on her, because they are typing in “actress/model” on their search engines, instead of “Random Chicks From Kent“.
With questions like, “Does she want to hide her background?” being asked by Hollywood, she’s becoming an enigma. I don’t know if she is trying to hide anything. I do know that she doesn’t look that comfortable in the pictures that I’ve seen. It’s got to be an overwhelming experience to have to absorb for someone. Maybe nobody has asked her anything. Last I heard she was supposed to marry that guy she was on Fear Factor with, but that obviously didn’t happen. She got a B.S. degree from Evergreen and then up and moved to Vegas. I’m not trying to attack or hurt anyone, but I’m not ashamed of my background and I’ve been in a mental health unit. Then again, I’m not trying to be a politician or a Hollywood darling. She’s just a girl who had occasionally displayed some selfish tendancies and became clearly too high maintenance for the crowd she was involved with. Maybe she felt that she wanted to get “somewhere” even if she didn’t know where that place was. Maybe all that she knew was that her current environments weren’t gong to nurture that. Most likely, she didn’t really piece it together all that in depth, but rather just reacted. She didn’t have a severe drug addiction, or drown a baby. It’s not that interesting. What’s interesting to me is that she went from E to E!, from Patchouli to Prada, from Orisi to Go-go….actually, her Orisi always had quite a bit of Go-Go in it. I say, “Good luck in the game?” I personally would represent where I came from and maybe she will. If I was in her position, I wouldn’t be worrying about how mysterious I might appear to the public. At this point, especially with such drastic transitions, I would be wondering about if I was still a mystery to myself. Your background only has an effect of you if you want something specific to happen. If you are a gangster rapper, the public finding out that you haven’t offed anyone can actually fuck up your career, but, like the slogan for the new Clooney film Michael Clayton states “The Truth Can Be Adjusted“. If anyone knows that, it’s the media.
–Dead C
@kindergarten dropout
George finding a great gal would be great if it happened, but it just seems so out of character for him. I agree with some of what you said because it’s nearly what I meant:
“He was just very selfish in his past because he had to be for his own satisfaction. ”
I disagree with the “in his past” and “had to be” parts.
I understand he has been very focused on his career — that’s the issue. It’s been his career above any relationship.
So what does that leave him though? A career that is currently faltering – because he really hasn’t had a hit that didn’t include Brad Pitt. His message films, as much as I enjoyed GNGL and Syriana, didn’t make the kind of money that O11 & O13 did. And not that I think money is everything, but in his world – his industry – a person’s success is determined by the amount of money his films bring in.
Why does his career have to taper off though for him to be more open to sharing his life with a great woman?
Matt Damon’s career hasn’t tapered off because he married someone who seems to be really great and just happens not to have been in the industry. Wasn’t she a waitress or bartender? His films are doing great box office. Last Bourne film did over $227 million worldwide.
I never had issue with Sarah being a waitress – no one says George has to hook up with someone who’s a rocket scientist. Would just like to see him with someone who is a nice gal, who may or may not have her own career aspirations but who doesn’t need to f’ck the camera everytime one is turned on her.
Sarah is an attention hog and she seems to have no limit to what she will do to get it. Her pictures are disgusting because they demean her (and women in general) and she is too stupid to understand that. Hey, uninhibited in private is one thing – Sarah’s antics are another.
As to George, for someone who comes across as an intelligent, savvy guy he sure makes stupid choices when it comes to women. And I’ve got to wonder what he thinks is wrong with him that he can’t meet and keep a great gal. Or is it that he just sees someone’s looks and doesn’t take the time to determine if they have any more to give than just good head?
At the end of his life what will he say he accomplished? George now wants to make a difference – perhaps be part of something bigger than himself. Okay, I get that. But dating these types of gals takes away his credibility and makes people focus on that and not the issues.
So what will he have truly accomplished? And it really doesn’t matter to me, but it seems to matter to him. Yes, he has fame. Yes, he has fortune. And wow, he can say he bagged a lot of babes. I guess for some guys that’s enough. Too bad. I thought he had a lot more potential.
@Casey
It was a post further up the list, his “friends” saying that GC was bored of her and the UK/European trip was a way to distance him from her.
Why hasn’t Julia Roberts been to any of his premier? She’ll be his co-host at the Museum Ball later this spring. Any bets on if SL will make one final appearance or will she be “working” or will she be deemed inappropriate for society (as she was for the U.N. appearance.)
I know that most men think with the lower brain, what does it say about his friends and family that they can’t smack him back into reality? Stan? Bryan? Mom? Dad? Sis?
What must his nieces and nephews think when their school friends point out Uncles girlfriends bits. It’s not like they have to go to porn sites to find this stuff it’s (almost literally) in their face. Children and even more so, teens can be very cruel.
Anyone know if she really did go to his folks house for Christmas?
This article now has over 2000 comments! That is simply stunning.
@new kid – so what did Faye say?
I have stated earlier I don’t believe the “ONE” is a female in the wings waiting to make a grand appearance. I believe it is a business relationship. I wouldn’t like the “ONE” if she existed, why would she let someone she love make a complete ass of himself and damn near ruining his livelihood. So I am guessing the “ONE” is the movie studio, production company that Clooney has been longing to work for or give him the freedom to make movies as he pleases.
George Clooney vacations in Mexico during the Christmas holidays, hence why he’s building a home down there. I doubt if he took her to meet his family during that time. They did (Nick and NIna)meet Sarah at the Michael Clayton premiere in NYC.
George Clooney doesn’t realize that his fan base is a bit more intelligent than maybe Brad Pitt or even Tom Cruise fans. He makes intelligent and thoughtful movies, who does he think watches them, a bunch a morons. I guess he thought he could pull a fast one on his fans.
Still,I don’t agree that the public should have anything to say about who he can date. I believe he’s a grown man and can date whom he pleases. The problem as it was stated earlier it is who he chooses to put on a public pedestal. Sarah Larson did not deserve to put on a public pedestal. If they ( his girlfriends) are scandalous, he should work harder at keeping the relationship private. I don’t judge him by who he chooses to date. He just needs to be more discreet.
The Smokehouse deal @ WB ends in 2009 or shall I say “up for renewal.”
Anything GC does now box-office or personal-wise will/shall/has effected/affected his relationship with the studio. Especially now that New Line has folded into WB and the strikes have made the studios more and more aware that vanity labels don’t mean glory and profit. If the industry is hit with the actor strike being threatened, June of this year. There is even more impetus to end the deals that were back at the time of the WGA strike profitable/seen as a “good thing.”
Either GC shapes up or his ship goes down, and he’ll end up in the same category as Tom Cruise. Eyed warily by studio exec until he again proves himself to be box office gold instead of lead.
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/spoof-of-that-wga-puny-few-fi-core-letter/
Posting this because George is mentioned.
The link above takes you to a spoof letter making the rounds via email in Hollywood. It’s in response to an actual letter sent by the leadership of WGA regarding writers who went fi-core during the strike.
Clooney went fi-core prior to the strike due to disagreement with the guild’s determination that he not get screenwriting credit for Leatherheads. I don’t have all the info but if you search the site at the link you’ll find more info if you’re interested.
Of course, in this spoof letter, Clooney is mentioned. In the original letter, Clooney is not. There seems to be a double standard – those who are A-listers and Oscar winners were not mentioned in the brouhaha regarding this issue – only those who most likely will not be able to fight back.
The writer makes some valid points about who did and did not actively support the strike and whether they were better off before or after. And the spoof writer pointed out that although there were “loans available” from the union – many who needed them didn’t get them so they still were screwed.
Personally, after reading the original letter I felt the writers got had by their own leadership and then for them to write such a spiteful missive was like pouring salt into the wound.
Such a classy town that Hollywood is…
So newkid – you seem to be able to find info – are we done with Leatherhead premieres overseas?
Any word on George being in Como? Any pics of Sarah with him?
I doubt that there would be but you just never know…
Depends on what Universal wants to do for a press push.
France has an April 23rd opening,
Latvia has an April 25th opening,
Netherlands in May,
Denmark, Czech Republic & Estonia in June.
Taiwan in July.
I think the major push is over – the film tanked, domestic as of last night 26 against a budget of 58 (million.) Europe isn’t much better though the film opened better in Italy than UK.
The Museum fête is May 5th, his birthday is the 6th, I haven’t seen nor heard anything about Como. That’s usually Summer not Spring.
http://www.nousmodels.com/framework.php
SL’s “agent” check out the contact tab, it asks anyone between certain ages to submit a snapshot…real klassy and elite. The same agency that reps Paris Hilton.
newkid wrote:
“The Smokehouse deal @ WB ends in 2009 or shall I say “up for renewal.” Anything GC does now box-office or personal-wise will/shall/has effected/affected his relationship with the studio … Either GC shapes up or his ship goes down, and he’ll end up in the same category as Tom Cruise. Eyed warily by studio exec until he again proves himself to be box office gold instead of lead.”
Do you know what else happens in 2009? — “The Fantastic Mr. Fox” opens. It’s an animated children’s movie, and the voice of the lead character is Clooney. Now how much money do you think a person could make selling scandalous photos of Larson a week before Clooney’s children’s film opens? The makers of “Mr. Fox” and especially those who financed it, must be shitting themselves right now. GC’s public display of SL could kill the box-office of a movie like that.
If there are people who believe “Farragut North” could be in trouble because of Larson, imagine the damage she could cause a children’s film?
She’s still in Vegas but where is he ? Laglio or LA ?
He’s not with her despite his statement that “everything is good” between them, that “they’re happy. He is in a happy relationship”.
http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2305483,00.html
http://www.lvrj.com/columnists/normclarke
LARSON HITS TRYST NIGHTCLUB WITH FRIENDS
Sarah Larson, girlfriend to Academy Award-nominated actor George Clooney, dropped by Tryst nightclub Sunday to hang out with some friends at the Wynn Las Vegas venue.
Larson is a former N9NE group cocktail server who has been dating Clooney for several months. (Sarah Larson, second from left, poses for a photo with her friends Sunday at Tryst nightclub inside Wynn Las Vegas. (Courtesy photo) )
I guess Sarah’s not w/George either in Como or NY:
http://www.lvrj.com/columnists/normclarke/
Vegas Update
Sarah Larson, second from left, poses for a photo with her friends Sunday at Tryst nightclub inside Wynn Las Vegas. (Courtesy photo)
LARSON HITS TRYST NIGHTCLUB WITH FRIENDS
Sarah Larson, girlfriend to Academy Award-nominated actor George Clooney, dropped by Tryst nightclub Sunday to hang out with some friends at the Wynn Las Vegas venue.
Larson is a former N9NE group cocktail server who has been dating Clooney for several months.
Clooney’s in London not Como
http://mavrixonline.com/mavrixonline/2008/04/george_clooney_hunky_at_the_iv.html
He’s still in London apparently
http://mavrixonline.com/mavrixonline/2008/04/george_clooney_hunky_at_the_iv.html
Chopin isn’t pdiddy
Would be Clooney, rappers use samples from everywhere. Maybe he and Larson were listening to music and she thought the song originated from PDiddy.
The promotional tour is over and he is still in Europe… He doesn’t seem to be in a hurry to see his “sweetheart”… That’s love, for sure !?!
For those who say no one should be telling George who he should date – that’s not the point here. I would like to again clarify why this has been an issue for me. I won’t speak for anyone else.
The point is that I do understand that he is free to date whomever he wishes, BUT if he’s going to date these types of women — then don’t “talk the talk” and not “walk the walk.”
Here’s one thing that really pissed me off about George. When he came back from Darfur the first time, he was interviewed by lots of news media. He spoke of “being horrified” about what was happening to the women in Darfur. He was speaking of the women who had to take the risk of being raped on a daily basis when they went out to get water because if the men had gone out they would have been killed.
Rape is about control – it is about dominance – it is about inciting fear and it is about having a basic lack of respect for women.
George speaking out about this makes him a hypocrite. LET ME BE CLEAR I AM NOT ACCUSING GEORGE OF RAPING ANYONE. What I am saying is that he chooses women who he can control. He keeps all the power in the relationship. He calls the shots. He decides when they are together and when they are not. He may treat them well, but in the end he really does not respect them, because if he did, he would take her wishes more into consideration.
Women like Sarah are chosen to look good on his arm, to be available at his beck and call for sex and to expect no commitment from him.
The guy has more opportunity and a larger base of potential women to date yet he keeps picking skanks. He’s also dated strippers, porn stars and soft porn actresses and it shows that it’s a pattern folks — not a one-time aberration. He does this because he knows he can control them.
My biggest issue with Sarah is her inability to understand how her actions are a slap in the face to all women who are striving to be held as equals. It’s also a slap in the face (the fact that she’s getting modeling gigs because she’s dating Clooney) to all the women out there who are struggling to make it as models – but who aren’t willing to “give it up” to get a job.
Sarah may not have been getting straight “on the bed stand” type of pay for her services, but she’s getting paid nonetheless.
So if Clooney wants to date these type of women – fine. But get the fuck of the soap box about how indignant he feels when he heard about the women of Darfur. He may be better looking and he may have a hell of a lot more money than the guys on the horses, but he’s into controlling women too.
Pot meet kettle.
The Fantastic Mr. Fox is scheduled for a November 6, 2009 release date. It’ll be Fox Animation’s follow up to another adaptation of a classic children’s book, Theodore “Dr. Seuss” Geisel’s Horton Hears a Who. Fox is also working on the as-yet-untitled Ice Age 3. (Being released by Fox Animation)
The cast looks good, the release date is pulled from the Fox Animation site. Oddly, they don’t list cast members.
If the cast I read is true Cate Blanchett, Angelica Huston and Bill Murray will be voicing the Roald Dahl book.
Daffy wrote:
“She’s still in Vegas but where is he ? Laglio or LA ?
He’s not with her despite his statement that “everything is good” between them, that “they’re happy. He is in a happy relationship”.”
I just got confirmation from someone on imdb that this quote was given by GC at the Leatherheads premiere in L.A. on March 31. I don’t know what else he could have said given that she was standing right there.
I like the part where he says, “Most people I know do well when they’re in a happy relationship, don’t they?” LOL! How ironic that statement is now that we know Leatherheads was to bomb at the box office less than a week later. At the time of this quote, expectations were for a #1 opening for Leatherheads even with the lukewarm reviews factored in. The hard numbers a week later and the demographics of the film make it likely his “happy relationship” with Larson killed the movie. If this is GC “doing well”, I’d hate to see his definition of doing badly.
I also found it interesting that GC gave this very same quote to a reporter just one month before he Krista Allen broke up.
Hi ALL!
Ive been reading the posts since the begining and I think its a SCAM! I think she found out something about george and shes BLACKMAILING HIM!!! I hunted some stuff down and the nous models model has a myspace.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=44294714
read down the comments and see E.—– she writes OH HELLS YES!!! like she’s celebrating and links to the Las Vegas review journal. http://www.lvrj.com/news/17456074.html
I think shes setting him up so she gets famous. I think its a conspirisy. WHO is E.!!!
AMERICA’S IDOLS
Why the Obsession With the Rich and Famous?
Millions sit hypnotized by the celebrity life. Why are the lives of the rich and famous so fascinating?
Media Frenzy
The advent of the Internet has changed entertainment news. Websites report the latest on who divorced whom; who gained weight; who was seen where; who is pregnant. People’s craving for intimacy with the famous can even be satisfied by cellphone news alerts. The most searched Internet phrases are almost always celebrity names.
Fascination with celebrities is nothing new; it has only grown more pervasive. The public cannot seem to get enough of every intricate detail of their lives—and from an endless array of sources. Many cannot go a day without reading the latest juicy morsel of celebrity gossip. Drawn like a magnet to trivial facts about other people’s lives, many turn straight to the Life or People section of their newspaper.
Incidents in a celebrity’s life often make international news. When a highly popular actor is arrested for driving under the influence and lets loose a drunken tirade, the reports can dwarf news coverage of vastly more important world events. Other celebrities are interviewed about their opinions of the actor in question. Even politicians are queried for their opinion. Media pundits ask, “Is his career over? Will he be able to bounce back?”
We hear about celebrities, read about celebrities and watch celebrities in virtually every medium. Why do so many millions care?
The Paparazzi
Fueling people’s interest are the infamous photographers behind the photographs. Similar to private investigators, paparazzi work off of tips to track down and photograph famous people doing mundane, day-to-day activities. These photographs can sell for thousands of dollars. Although some are among the highest paid in the photography industry, paparazzi are generally looked down upon for the intrusive methods they use.
Accidents sometimes result from the famous trying to avoid paparazzi, as was the case with Princess Diana in 1997. Her tragic death was due in part to being chased by the paparazzi.
Further, the line between celebrity reporting and paparazzi is being blurred. A People magazine reporter was recently arrested for trespassing on celebrity property. Searching for the latest exclusive photo, reporters are now stalking celebrities.
The Celebrity Couple
Nothing creates more media frenzy than the celebrity couple. Millions are enthralled by which popular actor is dating which famous singer, or which movie star was seen with which sports star. Ridiculous nicknames are coined, combining their first names to create hybrids.
Not content with just the couple, their babies are brought into the public eye. According to CNN, “Few recent celebrity subjects have produced as much table-thumping tabloid copy as questions about the existence and well-being of [celebrity baby].” The report continued, “But after the baby was born…[celebrity couple]…disappeared from public view, leading to a tabloid outcry as to why the child was not being seen.”
Magazines will pay millions for photograph rights. For instance, Variety magazine reported that one well-known couple sold photograph rights of their newborn to a magazine for $4.1 million.
Believe it or not, these pictures are actually worth the cost to the magazine due to public demand. For example, one website hosting such photos broke a single-day traffic record, attracting 26.5 million page views!
Revered as Gods
In a National Public Radio interview, one journalist said, “With celebrity journalism…we really are one giant high school and they’re the cool kids, and everyone on the Internet can comment on them, can envy them, despise them, emulate them. So I understand why you [the public] feel a familiarity with them.”
Millions tune in to American Idol to watch the newest “average Joe” be transformed into a pop star. Nielsen Media Awards reports that “American Idol…averaged 28 million viewers, compared to 15 million for the Grammys. The fact that more viewers were caught up in the Hollywood auditions of amateur singers than in the glitz and glamour of the world’s hottest-selling recording stars was further testament to the popularity of Idol, the most watched show on television” (Reuters).
These celebrity icons are admired and worshiped by millions due to their fame, power, wealth, status and achievements. America bows to these prominent figures. They are truly—and without shame—made into idols and revered as gods.
A Measure of Success
Shallow minds often focus on people. It is this interest that fuels the ever-increasing wealth of celebrity news and gossip, most prevalent in Western media.
Many people envy the “perfect” lives of celebrities—their posh, multi-million-dollar mansions—expensive cars—monstrous bank accounts—and the freedom that comes with wealth and fame. They seem happy, successful and invincible at times. Celebrity personalities are routinely given special privileges, and often are allowed to live above the law (when compared to the average person) due to their high-profile status. Consider the popular singer who was reportedly able to bypass the normal legal restrictions surrounding adoption and received permission to adopt a child from Africa.
Such privileges explain part of the reason the public so desires fame, and the riches and power that come with it. Many are willing to do almost anything to get into the media’s spotlight. For example, a night club recently hosted a Girls Gone Wild event (an entertainment company famous for filming young women exposing themselves to camera crews). One 17-year-old girl, eager for a chance at stardom, became intoxicated and began to strip for the camera crew. Tragically, she was allegedly raped by a Girls Gone Wild cameraman later that night. “[A] bright but flawed local girl…bought into what turned out to be a dangerous illusion in a society that has become so obsessed with fame…everyone seems to be angling to become the next Paris Hilton” (Akron Beacon Journal).
People envy the celebrity lifestyle, but then moments later take joy when a megastar comes crashing down. An actor or singer is arrested, checks into rehab or goes through a messy divorce, and people take pleasure in reading about it. It is a love/hate relationship many fans have with the celebrities they idolize. This feeling of happiness at a celebrity’s downfall comes from envy or jealousy. Yet the public followers find themselves suddenly rooting for the famous individual to make a career comeback.
Following the celebrity’s life also serves to divert attention away from their own. When focusing on someone else’s problems, thoughts of one’s financial difficulties go away and marriage problems are forgotten (at least temporarily). It is much easier to escape to someone else’s life.
Consequences of Celebrity Worship
There is some evidence that there may be mental health consequences of celebrity worship.
Researchers have examined the relationship between celebrity worship and mental health in United Kingdom adult samples. Maltby et al. (2001) found evidence to suggest that the intense-personal celebrity worship dimension was related to higher levels of depression and anxiety. Similarly, Maltby et al., in 2004, found that the intense-personal celebrity worship dimension was not only related to higher levels of depression and anxiety, but also higher levels of stress, negative affect, and reports of illness.
Another consequence was recently reported by Maltby, Giles, Barber and McCutcheon (2005) who examined the role of celebrity interest in shaping body image cognitions. Among three separate U.K. samples (adolescents, students and older adults) individuals selected a celebrity of their own sex whose body/figure they liked and admired, and then completed the Celebrity Attitude Scale along with two measures of body image. Significant relationships were found between attitudes toward celebrities and body image among female adolescents only. The findings suggested that, in female adolescence, there is an interaction between intense-personal celebrity worship and body image between the ages of 14 and 16 years, and some tentative evidence is found to suggest that this relationship disappears at the onset of adulthood, 17 to 20 years.
These results are consistent with those authors who stress the significance of the formation of relationships with media figures, and suggest that relationships with celebrities perceived as having a good body shape may lead to a poor body image in female adolescents. Within a clinical context the effect of celebrity might be more extreme, particularly when considering extreme aspects of celebrity worship.
Maltby, Day, McCutcheon, Houran and Ashe (2006) examined the relationship between entertainment-social, intense-personal and borderline-pathological celebrity worship and obsessivemess, ego-identity, fantasy proneness and dissociation. Two of these variables drew particular attention; fantasy proneness (time spent fantasising, reporting hallucinatory intensities as real, reporting vivid childhood memories, having intense religious and paranormal experiences) and dissociation (reflects the lack of a normal integration of experiences, feelings, and thoughts in everyday consciousness and memory and is related to a number of psychiatric problems). Though low levels of celebrity worship (entertainment-social) are not associated with any of the clinical measures, medium levels of celebrity worship (intense-personal) are related to fantasy proneness (around 10% of the shared variance), while high levels of celebrity worship (borderline-pathological) share a greater association with fantasy proneness (around 14% of the shared variance) and dissociation (around 3% of the shared variance, though the effect size of this is small and most probably due to the large sample size).
This finding suggests that as celebrity worship becomes more intense, and the individual perceives having a relationship with the celebrity, the more the individual is prone to fantasies.
Celebrity Worship, Personality and Temperaments
There is an interesting article published in the Psychologist, regarding the psychology behind Celebrity Worship.
The Celebrity worshipers are classified on the following three dimensions (obtained by Principal Components Analysis):
Entertainment-social. Fans are attracted to a favorite celebrity because of their perceived ability to entertain and to become a source of social interaction and gossip. Items include ‘My friends and I like to discuss what my favorite celebrity has done’ and ‘Learning the life story of my favorite celebrity is a lot of fun’.
Intense-personal. The intense-personal aspect of celebrity worship reflects intensive and compulsive feelings about the celebrity, akin to the obsession tendencies of fans often referred to in the literature. Items include ‘My favorite celebrity is practically perfect in every way’ and ‘I consider my favorite celebrity to by my soul mate’.
Borderline-pathological. This dimension is typified by uncontrollable behaviors and fantasies about their celebrities. Items include ‘I would gladly die in order to save the life of my favorite celebrity’ and ‘If I walked through the door of my favorite celebrity’s house she or he would be happy to see me’.
The article goes on to relate these dimension to Eysenecks Personality dimensions:
Specifically, the entertainment-social factor of the Celebrity Attitude Scale reflects some of the extraversion personality traits (sociable, lively, active, venturesome), the intense-personal factor of the CAS reflects some of the neuroticism traits (tense, emotional, moody), and some of the acts described in the borderline-pathological subscale of the CAS seem to reflect some of the psychoticism traits (impulsive, antisocial, egocentric).
It goes on to discuss the social and developmental aspects with special focus on the predominantly teen phenomenon of celebrity worship. It is theorized that Celebrity Worship is part of ‘parasocial’ relationship building and plays a role in the transition from parental attachment to peer attachments as a function of increasing emotional autonomy.
Here I start seeing parallels between the Teen’s particular style of Celebrity Worship and the infant’s reaction to Strange Situation test measured by Ainsworth and theoriesed by Bowlby.
In the Strange Situation test the group of infants which has a secure attachment with parent, protested and cried on separation, but when the mother returned, they greeted her with pleasure and were easy to console. They were securely attached. Could a person with this form of attachment style (the Extraversion secure trait), in its adolescence when building a parent-like role-model relationship with a Celebrity display a similar attachment style as displayed in infancy. The attachment would give pleasure, would be fun to talk about and provide as a basis (talking matter) for other peer relationships. Is this not the Entertainment-social style?
The second group of infants in the Strange Situation test was characterized by a lack of distress during parental separation, and avoidance of the parent upon return. This group was called insecurely attached, and avoidant. Is it not possible that this attachment style , that is characterized by attachment from a distance and no anxiety on separation , but a general anxiety (Neuroticism trait) in general, lead in adolescence to intense-personal style of seeking a parental figure in the Celebrity, which purports to be personal, and is a substitute for the lack of parental bonding and is itself more of a facade. As the article notes, “an intense-personal interest in celebrities was best predicted by low levels of security and closeness with parents.” What is apparent is that this intense ‘relationship’ with the celebrity is juts another facade and a repeat of the pattern of insecure or avoidant attachment as the relationship is more about oneself then about the celebrity.
The third group in the Strange Situation Test was labeled ambivalent or anxiously attached, and tended to be clingy from the beginning and afraid to explore the room. They became terribly anxious upon separation, yet displayed angry and resistive behavior upon the parent’s return. This may indeed follow up in adolescence as celebrity worship of the Borderline/Pathological type where one loves as well hates (in the sense of distressing or harming the celebrity if favors not returned) the one who has been substituted for the parental figure. One is not really clear about the feelings as the role of impulsive (Psychoticism trait) behavior is too much!
This makes us pause and consider whether the attachment style displayed in infancy was due to bad parenting or a result of some ‘trait’ factor associated with the temperaments of the infant? Does one come endowed with some temperaments like that proposed by Buss and Plomin? Do the attachment styles in infancy and Celebrity Worship styles in adolescence based on the developmental unfolding and fixation of the same underlying trait tendencies? Below are the traits observed by Buss and Plomin in infants:
1. Emotionality-impassiveness: How emotional and excitable were the babies? Some were given to emotional outbursts of distress, fear, and anger — others were not. Could the high emotionality tilt lead to insecure attachment and intense-personal celebrity worship? Is achieving impassiveness a developmental task that these kids are not able to achieve (due to a mix of inherent traits as well as nurturing provided)?
2. Sociability-detachment: How much did the babies enjoy, or avoid, contact and interaction with people. Some babies are “people people,” others are “loners.” Does the high sociability lead to secure attachment and later to Entertainment-social fixation on celebrities? Is achieving detachment too a developmental task?
3. Activity-lethargy: How vigorous, how active, how energetic were the babies? Just like adults, some babies are always on the move, fidgety, busy — and some are not. This dimension may be related to ambivalent and active forms of stalking behaviors. Maybe too much activity (hyperactivity) is not too good and cultivating a bit of lethargy is a developmental task?
4. Impulsivity-deliberateness: How quickly did the babies “change gears,” move from one interest to another? Some people quickly act upon their urges; others are more careful and deliberate. This could be strongly related to the ambivalent attachment and later borderline-pathological celebrity worship characterized by impulsiveness and lack of successful traversal of developmental task of cultivating deliberativeness.
I’ll leave this topic for now, just noting briefly that the intense-emotional worshippers also have low cognitive flexibility. As they have been shown to be related to Neuroticism, it is little wonder. People with high Neuroticism also develop disorders like Depression whereby one sort of falls into learned helplessness- a fixed cognitive schema and inflexibility in trying new things, cognitive coping actions. This needs cures like cognitive behavior therapy where new modes of cognition and action are taught. A lack of cognitive flexibility thus fits nicely with the Intense-Personal celebrity worshippers.
Okay, so I’m reading an article about GC discussing the wisdom of boycotting the Olympics in China, i.e. whether or not such a drastic action would help or hinder the crisis in Darfur (GC is concerned it would be hindered).
And this is the first and only comment posted:
bea
Why should we listen to someone who likes whores?
(Posted on: Wednesday 23rd of April 2008 02:33:23 PM)
http://entertainment.oneindia.in/hollywood/top-stories/scoop/2008/george-clooney-beijing-olympics-2008-220408.html
I’m telling ya, this is not letting up and it was only a matter of time before it started to reflect on his humanitarian work.
I don’t believe I’m going to have to defend Clooney.
Well, the tragedy of rape happening in Darfur isn’t for controlling the women of Darfur, the women are being raped to humiliate the men of their tribe. Rape is being used to further tear the people of Darfur apart, so they won’t be a strong community. The men cannot bear the thought of their women being rape, they leave and it breaks up the family unit. Once the family unit is destroyed so are the people. Also there are social workers who are sexually exploiting the people of Darfur as well. That may have been what was being discussed earlier this year. Clooney had found out on his last visit that there are some aid workers who are raping the displaced people as well. If this was a war it would be a war crime. It is not happening to control the women, so I don’t understand how you came to that conclusion. He is bringing the world’s attention to what some have described as ethnic cleansing. That is the main cause for concern in Darfur, the Janjaweed are killing women as well as raping women.
He’s dated one porn star, Krista Allen, and her Emmanuelle series are NC-17 at best, it isn’t hardcore porn. I have seen both and trust me her films are just like watching a movie on HBO with a lot of sex in it. Sarah Talley was a stripper and I don’t believe Jennifer Aguero was a stripper. Are any of these women the first time he’s crossed that line, no, Larson was just the first one he decided to put on the public pedestal.My problem with him, Larson and Darfur is , she should NEVER attend any event that supports or when he is awarded for his humanitarian efforts . She exploits her sexuality for money and the women of Darfur are exploited sexually to further destroy their people. She is out of place there. I am still mad at him for taking her to the Nobel Laureate Ceremony.
As far as her sleeping with Clooney for work, she is on the losing end of that deal. He can’t help her get modeling gigs, he has no pull what so ever in that profession. Sure he can set her up with an agent, but getting work is 100% on her shoulders.Some book her in hopes he will come, but 2 out of 2 and he hasn’t shown up yet. I doubt if that will continue any longer. There are very few designers who will use her for her infamy, many will stay clear of her because she does offend most women. Ashley Paige just needed extra publicity, so Larson stepped in. She hasn’t been paid for any of her runway work at all. Also she’s pretty cocktail waitress, but boring as a model. She doesn’t “pop” or stand out, so I don’t know how far her modeling career will go.
Why she offends me, plain and simple, she has not come out and apologize for embarassing her family. She could be as skanky, vile and trifling as she wants, but she has to remember that other people answer for her skankiness as well. If she’s proud that she has the photos/porno out and is not ashamed that is fine, be brazen and unapologitic,( #1 reason why she won’t work) but she has to realize that her family is paying the cost. Imagine being one of her little sisters right now.
George Clooney and the women he dates are adults who are mutually using each other. They are using him for work and he using them for sex and what not. Do these women feel degraded afterwards, nope, they knew what they were getting into as well as he. That may be the number one reason he dates these chicks, they don’t want love, respect or affection, they just want work or money. It works for him and them as well until he tried to pull a fast one on the public. Yes, he’s going to get them work, yes they are going to date him. So again how can you compare this to what is happening in Darfur.
I cut him a break because I know he doesn’t want to get married again. I am a divorcee and I don’t want to get married, either so I empathize with him. It was difficult when I was younger ( late 20’s early 30’s) to date men my age range, because they wanted to get married or have children. I ended two long term relationships because of that. I stated on the FIRST date, I don’t want to get married or have more children, people tend to ignore that statement believing their love will change me. Nope, it doesn’t work that way, you end up upset because here you thought you were on the same page as someone, but you really weren’t because they had a hidden agenda the whole time. Now that I’m older and dating older men, it is easier, they often have children and don’t want anymore and are looking for love and companionship as opposed to building a life together. It has to be difficult for him to meet women in his age range, because, women are raised to get married. Our society practically demands a woman be married at a certain age or be labeled an old maid. So you have to realize that it is rough on him to find a woman who doesn’t want to get married or bear children.
As far as controlling these women, that is a joke!!! Strippers, hookers and other sex workers view themselves as empowered women, they call the shots. Especially the age range he’s “dating”. George Clooney is not dating an 18 or 21 year old, most of them except Larson are in their 30’s they are seasoned women, not young ingenue, with starry eyes. These are grown women who know what they want and how to get what they want. Is he wrong for giving them what they want, in order to maintain a “relationship”?
I don’t see the controlling issue here. Isee two adults giving and taking.
Also there are too many women who have dated him and have nothing but positive things to say about him. Many are A-list actresses and I guess they knew he didn’t want to get married and just enjoyed the time they spent with each other. He’s good friends with many of them so that whole darkside of George isn’t flying either. He’s also friends with many intelligent and powerful women. The controlling abusive type usually doesn’t fare well with strong intelligent women.
George Clooney is a human being trying to find companionship that works for him. If these women provide what he needs, who are we to judge , unless he parades them around as he did with Larson. HE MADE A GRAVE ERROR WITH BRINGING ONE OF HIS SEX WORKER GALPALS TO THE FOREFRONT AND HE IS PAYING THE PRICE. He will think twice before he flaunts another one of those chicks in public again. George Clooney fans are well aware of his personal dalliances and he normally tries to keep his personal life just that PERSONAL. So we have been overlooking things until now. As long as he doesn’t try this mess again , he’ll get his fans back.
@Shadow: that’s why I posted the past on Krista – he’s doing the same thing EXCEPT her representation said he broke up with her because of respect issues. He broke up with her because he couldn’t take her porn past. Esquire article when asked if he dated her HE SAID NO.
@Just: I 100% agree and stand to applaud your comments.
@Fark:Got some interesting reading for this weekend
Gawker poll of the day: Would a woman cheat on GC
http://gawker.com/news/linda-stasi/slut-nut-dyke-or-liar-a-gawker-poll-189488.php
Amazing
Could you post the links to the two articles you posted here. I’m assuming you didn’t write them so posting the links would be helpful.
Thanks.
Oh, one other comment about the first article Amazing posted…
I wonder that they didn’t report more on the other side of it.
Those who seek out becoming celebrities. I can’t believe it’s all for the fortune part of it. Many of the celebrities have an intense need to be in the public eye — to have that fame — or they wouldn’t pursue it as fiendishly as they do.
The article comments about a girl gone wild incident, mentioning that so many wish to become the next Angelina Jolie that they’ll do anything. But they don’t comment on what Angelina may have done to get to where she is.
Seems a bit of a double standard. Of course, the study is about the fans and not the celebrities themselves.
Also, if he hadn’t flaunted Larson around so publicly, would any of us be here right now? Nope!!! Would this blog even exist, nope. No one would look for someone they didn’t exist to them. We would have never known who she was. He could have taken her to Venice, walked the red carpet alone, avoid kissing her in front of the camera and the world would have never even heard of her. She would have had pictures to show he friends in Las Vegas. Actually she would have made off better by keeping the relationship private. He could have gotten her film work, because there wouldn’t have been such public outcry. She could have done a film or two and started getting work on her own. No one would have bothered to dig up her past until she became famous, if that would have happened at all.
So they both suffered. He suffered at the box office and his credibility has taken a huge hit. She suffered because all of those photos/films killed any chance of her having a career. She should have gotten the deals before she decided to walk around all smug. I guess she’ll be the Omarosa of celebrity ex-girlfriends. She’ll be in every reality show she could get. If there’s another Rock of Love or Flavor of Love, look out for her. :)
George Clooney will just disappear for a few months, only to be heard doing charitable work to boost his image. He’ll survive.
New Kid – did you get the chance to talk to Faye yet?
I think Kindergarten Dropout isn’t far from the truth. I remember seeing George in an interview where he mentioned he had about another 5 years in this business and it was a few years ago (when he was 45), so I believe that he knows his time is limited and his career (as KD said) will taper off or slim down and then he will be ready. The way he said it was like he already knew what was going to happen… (sort of like he had to strike while the iron was hot because his whole life was going to change one day).
Reading KD’s post is as if it was said from the horse’s mouth… or someone close to the horse. Just a funny feeling. Something really struke a cord with that post.
I think it’s true his career would have to taper off in at least some direction to make time for a good woman. There’s no way any woman he’d want around for the duration would sit around at his home and wait for him. Besides, it’d give him more incentive to put some effort forth for her if she was the one who started to get busy, especially if she was in the entertainment industry. Then he could have “second chances” in helping her to get it right, drawing from his own Hollywood experiences. Might even be a bittersweet love story. I think it’d be a more balanced and harmonious relationship. But if he’s not ready, just expect more hoes because he won’t isolate the time while he’s living for nothing but himself.
As for SL, that was all for us, the public. That was to get our hearts racing. That was so that they could say, see? He is capable of love and faithfulness. It just backfired because we found out it was all based on a lie. So no matter what they (SL and GC) do at this point together, more rotten tomatoes will be launched at both of them for lying even more. It just won’t quit until she vanishes from sight. Who cares whether or not it ends in an unfairytale-like way? It’d honestly be better if it didn’t. It’d be better that he come out to the public and say, “I thought I could trust her with our private life. I thought she’d appreciate all that I did for her. I thought she was having fun with me. But I just couldn’t take it any more that all she wanted from me was to leech off my fame. I know she’s not perfect and I thought it’d be great to watch her life turn around. Instead, her past life was starting to soil mine and I realized, you just can’t change people. I realized that a real fairytale princess will behave and talk and act like a princess, rich or not, from the moment I meet her. I realized a fairytale princess would not get drunk and screw a man the first night she meets him. I realized a fairytale princess would not even consider me until I got my own shit together. I realize that the mistakes I’ve made with Sarah and all the women of my past were nothing more than teachers who helped me to grow up so I would recognize my beloved princess when she does arrive. I hope the public can forgive me for my lack of good judgment and trust that I know now the truth should never have to be adjusted for the right one. No one will blame her for her past, right or wrong, so long as she has integrity. And I wouldn’t settle for anything less.”
@newkid:
Am biting my nails…
@Anon2:
Remember, GC has seemed to be pretty deeply affected by Aunt Rosemary’s understanding that fame is fleeting and the public fickle.
Good news for him is that he paid cash ($$) for his lovely villa in Lake Como. He can use his authentic Italian garden to recreate Don Corleone’s death scene from Godfather, minus the grandkid of course, when he’s finally ready to write himself out of this worldly story…
Que oranges. Fade to black.
George has also dated at least one hard core porn gal. Don’t remember her name but he was pictured with her.
I still say, he can date whomever he wants to date. Just get off the fucking soapbox like he’s holier than anyone else.
He has the potential to date many different people. Hell Shelly, you could be one of them since you state you don’t want to get married, etc. So he more than anyone has more options and he chooses not to take them. It’s still a control issue.
Shelley, let’s say you met George, he asked you out and you actually said yes.
How would you feel if he decided after 8 months of dating you (and your were for all intents and purposed living with him) to go off to Europe without you while at the same time when being interviewed with you standing next to him says it’s because you have to work.
Would you put up with that bullshit? Of course not. But Sarah, because she has NO power and NO say in this relationship can’t say a damn thing. I’m not saying that I want her to be mugging in the camera on the red carpet. But that’s the point. If he feels like leaving her at home he can and she has NO SAY.
As to these gals thinking they’re empowered – well what happens when the johns leave? They THINK they’re empowered, but I think it’s a bunch of horseshit. It’s a way for them to rationalize what they’re doing.
Sorry, I can’t agree with you Shelly, but that’s okay – I’m not here to change anyone else’s mind. Just making my point (as many times as I need to) to make sure we don’t lose sight of what’s going on.
Too many people want to cut George some slack. Why should we? Why does he deserve it?
If George were a 300 pound guy with thinning hair and bad teeth but had lots of money so he could buy his dates, would you be defending him so vigorously. I think you’d be saying Ewwwww!
There’s a double standard going on here.
The one thing I will agree with is if he stops the bullshit with the skanks he might be able to get some of his fans back. Might.
Sarah Larson will be on EXTRA tomorrow, Thursday the 24th — segment entitled, “what’s it like to be George Clooney’s girlfriend”.
@committment man – Thanks for your “fairytale princess” story. I get it. I finally freakin’ get it. Thank You. Thank You so much.
http://www.tv.com/fear-factor/las-vegas-teams/episode/399935/summary.html
A trip down memory lane, the overview/recap a few pages of SL’s appearance on Fear Factor
@justwanna
1. HA ! I would only date GC if he produced a clean bill of health from a physician. ie a std screening with HIV and HEP A,B,C testing as well
2. I’ll agree to disagree, but your example is more of a business decision as opposed to a personal decision. The trip to Europe was for the movie, it was a working trip, not a personal one. SO of course I would say, he has every right to not take me without consulting with me. He is a corporation more or less. That should have been his decision and maybe Stan’s. I am not contributing to the business, so why do I need to have a say.
I can’t believe Clooney is some “Ike Turner” type.
Omigoodness, does George or Stan knows she’s going on Extra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This must be the working of her new agency.
Oh goodness, I hope I get home in time to watch this mess!!!!!! Is there any reason to interview a celebrity non-celebrity girlfriend?
http://www.myqlu.com/Default.aspx
Clooneys ’08 oscar gift bag up for grabs, SL’s teeth marks and claw marks from him ripping from her attention whoring hands not included.
Other celeb auctions ALL for charity, it’s a nice site if you’re into that stuff.
I wonder who you really are, what great things do you do every day that are not written about here; what talents you have and where you are going in your lives. I think of the lives you have touched and those who love you dearly because of it and I realize there is so much valuable stuff going on with you all than what is written after silly sounding names. I think it would be so much more interesting to hear you talk about yourselves than GC and SL….they are not that interesting… Keep doing all the great things you are doing in your lives and try to get a grip on all that subjective, emotionally addicting feeling/thinking. Speculating about GC and SL is a waste of time. They will live, get old and die like everyone else. You are worth more than that.
Hello, I am back. Yes, I am becoming obsessed with celebrity obsession.
Just Wanna Poke Eyes…the two articles are:
AMERICA’S IDOLS – Why the Obsession With the Rich and Famous?
http://www.realtruth.org/404.php?strFull=articles/465-ai.htm
and
Celebrity Worship, Personality and Temperaments
http://the-mouse-trap.blogspot.com/2006/08/celebrity-worship-personality-and.html
Celebrities life is high pressured and full of phoney. They often fight addiction, emotional problems and have messed up personal lives. There is nothing to envy …be glad you are you.
Cheers
Came across this article. @newkid, just in case the 40 page turner is only worth TP this one will give you a laugh for sure.
FRESH YARN PRESENTS:
My Non-Sexual Date with Mr. George Clooney
By Kirk Pynchon
http://www.freshyarn.com/49/essays/pynchon_mynon.htm
The magician flashes the shiny object to misdirect the audience’s attention from the real action.
Sarah walks the runway for charity. Sarah parties in Vegas with her friends. Sarah walks for AIDS research. Where is George?
i’m not buying that they’re in love. no guy in a ‘sizzling’ romance ditches his girl and trots around europe without her. and parties with lots of lovely ladies, some of whom were his ‘ex’. who’s to say he didn’t get in touch with lisa snowden while in london? you never know. just wanna is right — he has all the power in this relationship. sl can put on a good face, but the simple fact is, she is starting to look like a fool to go on tv nattering on about a ‘relationship’ when her beau is shining her on. how embarrassing. i think gc is tired of her and wants his space, possibly permanently.
@Amazing – the internet and gossip sites/forums are the new back fence.
Instead of chatting with your neighbors over the back fence it’s now a global conversation.
Personally, I find it fascinating that we can be speaking on the same/similar subjects and agreeing/disagreeing etc. with people from all over the world.
I’ve made friends with folks from around the world on other forums I visit. It’s not a lack of life – it’s just one more facet of life.
Thanks for the links.
Anon2 – Great! I think a few people on this board are/were on to something, too. Whether or not they knew a whole truth, I think it’s all shaping up to be a pretty positive experience, when you think about it. We always believe this stuff will end in misery. Not necessarily. If George can turn it into something valuable, he’ll walk away from SL knowing what love isn’t, and then maybe he’ll better be able to identify what love is. If he’s open, he’ll find it. If not, he’ll just keep repeating more of the same and drown his sorrows in liquor. If there is a “the One”, that fairytale princess – one that a few on here say/said he’s seen, met, acquainted, his friends know/knew, whatever, he wouldn’t just let her walk on by or flash him a look and forget her once it’s happened. That feeling a person gets when the hair stands on your neck or an odd sense of familiarity or cognizance of someone that you cannot remove your eyes from them is that same quality that harkens you to take action. What if this has happened to George and he let it slip his hands? Someone said maybe Grant knew or met someone? Is that what that poster was alluding to? Cause if so, it’s starting to be the perfect time for that fairytale princess. George is definitely in a situation of need. Don’t know if he’s receptive, though. Than he’s nothing more than a victim of the fears he’s created. To hell with needing a drink to talk to a woman. How about just doing it because you’ll never find another like her? So the question is has he learned what he’s needed to learn here, or is this thread going to continue into another year?
Amazing – after skimming through this very long sea of opinions and possible factoids, one thing is clear on you. You were here in the beginning and now you’re here in the ending. It’s quite evident you’re not Amazing. You’re just Sarah Larson.
Think of it this way, Anon2. Just like in the movie Field of Dreams. “If you build it, he will come.” So if Clooney builds within himself a readiness, and a readiness on the outside, too, she will come. It follows the Buddhist belief that when the student is ready, the teacher will arrive. Sarah was a teacher of sorts and IF and only IF he’s learned what he needs to, she will disappear. If not she will linger. I think this is why she’s been around for 9 or 10 months. There was some things to her that he must have missed picking up on at the outset. But that’s okay. Some people are in bad relationships for 20 years until they realize that they had been repeating lessons over and over because they were stuck in a holding pattern. Hopefully George has come to his senses and let this thing finally end.
NEVER give me url like that when I’m drinking the morning tea! My keyboard almost fried from the splurt of laughter. It sounds like it should be Spader and Shatner at the end of Boston Legal.
@Fark: a big time difference in when it ended, she got the dog. Alot may be read between the lines. The end.
Where is Clooney? Being Clooney, drinking, carousing, hiding because he can’t face confrontaton and hopes SL just goes away, which she won’t.
Leatherheads is now off top 10 for US domestic, coming soon to a blu-ray near you (joke)
@Committment Man – where have you been? Wish you were here 2,000+ posts ago! Your words make so much sense (at least to me), putting a lot of questions and answers into perspective.
I don’t believe that he has already met “the one”, because as you say “he wouldn’t just let her walk on by or flash him a look and forget her once it’s happened”. I believe he knows there is someone and he knows “about” her, but he hasn’t met her. I also believe that he drinks because he can’t be with her and as you say, is drowning his sorrows. Maybe she’s not ready yet either.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/18037039.html
THE SCENE AND HEARD
Local model Sarah Larson generated some early buzz at the AFAN AIDS Walk on Sunday. Just before the event started, George Clooney’s galpal came on stage at the World Market Center and made a $25,000 donation. Event hosts Penn & Teller matched their walk team’s fundraising efforts with a donation of $50,500, bringing the Rio headliners’ total to $101,000. More than 7,500 walk participants raised more than $500,000. …
@newkid posted:
THE SCENE AND HEARD
Local model Sarah Larson generated some early buzz at the AFAN AIDS Walk on Sunday. Just before the event started, George Clooney’s galpal came on stage at the World Market Center and made a $25,000 donation.
My comment:
She must have hit a jackpot on the slots! LOL