From Patchouli to Prada (Clooney’s “mystery” girl?)
FOREWARD:
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I can understand that some may have chosen to add malicious attacks and comments under this article but I don’t plan to respond to them, unless of course they are directed towards me and then…I might, because then it’s just funny. You may feel that my intentions in this article may have been dishonorable at best, but I wish no ill will towards anyone.
Sarah may have rubbed me the wrong way at times but I have no negative feelings towards her, believe it or not. I wasn’t going to come out here like Capt. Save-a-ho and write an article defending random attacks by strangers on the internet when I wrote it, but I was trying to humanize this rampant frenzy to search out her history and to stabilize it if I could. I tried to show her in the truthful light of someone that everyone could be familiar with. No need to turn her into a GOD or to turn her into a DEMON. She’s just a regular ass human, and guess what?….so is George Clooney.
If you are tremendously hurt or inspired by anything either of them do that is broadcasted through the media which paints them in either light, the only real problems that you have do not come from these people, who you will never likely come in contact with in real life, it comes for your own issues. There’s a show for that, it’s called Dr. Phil. Sorry they cancelled Lilith Fair.
I will not censor your comments, I am against that fully, but don’t expect me to feed into them either, positively or negatively. Maybe another mistake on my part is that I am failing to remove this article, but I do take great time and effort to compose my articles and thoughts and I view them as my own form of art. Words to me are something that I can form and something that I can create or express with, even if I can’t afford a $2,500 wacom tablet or expensive musical equipment. If you think my writing is shit…that’s cool. I think most film today is shit and most of the celebrities that people worship are talentless hacks. This is my forum which you are welcome to visit and comment on as you see fit. That’s all that it is; that and a forum for friends of mine whose views that I respect. I hope people are enjoying it. Maybe you’ll enjoy another article, maybe you don’t give a fuck. Either way thanks for visiting and I appreciate your time.
Now that I’ve said that, you are very welcome to continue
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I woke up Saturday morning when my phone rang at 9:13 pacific standard time. It was a message from my friend KB Smooth texting me from Rhode Island. The message said “Sarah Larson is dating George Clooney…” I got up and went to my computer. I searched on line to find pictures of Sarah and Clooney at a celebrity coctail party in Venice for the release of his new film Michael Clayton, where they were hanging out with Spike Lee, Bill Murray, and Richard Gere. Everything else that I found on the internet about her dating Clooney, refers to her as a “mystery girl“. No one seems to know anything about her except her name and age (28) but they seem to be searching frantically. Some refer to her as a possible “Go-Go dancer” but without confirmation. I don’t understand the intense interest, but I can say one thing; she’s not much of a fucking mystery. I’ve known her since she was 10.
The main difference was that she had a side-pontytail when I met her 2 years prior. The photo above is from our 7th grade Junior High year book. You may be thinking, “Damn! That’s fucked up. I can’t believe you posted that photo on the internet.” If you have this year book, then you know that I don’t have room to talk shit because my picture is actually worse. Yeah, I know, it was 1991 and it was a long time ago. If you think about it though, what’s really fucked up is that, at the time when the picture was taken, George Clooney was already a suave 30 yr old adult man with sideburns who was playing Booker Brookes on Roseanne. That’s 2 years older than Sarah is right now. When I was 6 years old and pretending that I was StreetHawk, this cat actually got to appear on an episode. That same year he started his 2 year run on the Facts of Life for crissakes! If Alan Thicke wrote the theme song to a show that you were a major character on, then you’ve been around for a minute. Hell, he was even getting acting gigs before I was a fetus floating next to a dangerous IUD.It’s wierd seeing somebody that you’ve known for almost 20 years in photographs romantically linking them with an Oscar winner. Sarah and I have attended the same schools since elementary and all the way up through college. We even lived in the same house at one point. She dated a former bandmate of mine for 6 years and was my ex-girlfriend’s best friend for years as well. We’ve been on road trips. Now everyone is so fascinated with her. I know why the people who know her are, but the rest of you…what’s the deal? What the fuck do you really want to know? She’s just some broad from Kent, a town located between Seattle and Tacoma Washington. A town, when we were growing up there, that had something to prove. When people live in a suburb like that, they like nothing more than to go to parties, get drunk off of their parents shitty beer and punch eachother in the throat.
The same day I found out about her new popularity, my mom told me that she was on the cover of People magazine and, later on E!, she was shown in a brief clip. I had been at work all day, however, before I left I had emailed a couple of publications stating simply that I knew her. I got a response and I spoke on the phone a couple of times with one publication in particular. It was insane. I was just interested in the process at first but I started to get swept away with the whole situation. I held back with info trying to see what they would say to me and, basically, trying to read the British man on the other end of the line. It was a little shady right off the bat. I got questions like “Would you say she was a maneater?” and gave responses like, “Um…no, I wouldn’t say that she was a ‘man eater‘…” Eventually, after being awakened early on my day off with a phone call, I said that I wouldn’t link him up with an ex-boyfriend of hers unless I heard something solid instead of bullshit. I got a monetary offer and a contract was sent to my friend. I don’t like feeling like I’m on the other end of a hustle and, although money is nice, neither of us (the ex-boyfriend and I) were out to destroy or hurt anyone, so we basically both decided not to take the cash or to deal with them further. Plus, when you sign a contract like that, there is a clause where you can’t speak about your story to anyone for at least 3 months afterwards. That means that if they twist your shit around, which they will inevitably do, you can’t make a rebuttal anywhere else publically. Fuck it! It wasn’t enough to build my bronze statue in which I’m holding a giant lazer anyway. I’m spilling my guts here instead. In my own forum and in the appropriate context. I don’t really “hate” anyone, but I do know that all of this shit is going to be pouring out soon from one direction or another.
I lived in a house near Lake Meridian and Sarah lived about 3 houses away. Her family was nice enough and she was the oldest of 3 sisters. She also has a little brother and a step dad. Her mom had remarried after a divorce due to Sarah’s dad being gay and remarrying another man. It was actually very interesting because he had lived for a long time with the AIDS virus and, as I recall, scientists were interested in finding out why so that they could learn something more about the disease. I believe that he eventually died around 2002 or ’03. This should be the one thing, if anything, that should really draw some sympathy for her, but I don’t know how something like that is printed for a headline. It’s most likely in a shady manner, and I know that the tabloids are already aware of this to a certain degree because I was asked directly about it.
There is a post from a guy calling himself Pizza T on the internet, who not only calls himself a “hippy thug” but also claims that he dated Sarah for 6 years. Sites are wondering if it’s true because they haven’t been able to “confirm” it. Fuck, I’ll “confirm” it right now. It’s true. Their relationship started in High School. Our high school was fucked up too. You were either living in a country club, crazy ghetto broke and hood, or stuck being left in the middle like the rest of us. I was even supposed to walk at graduation with Sarah but, since the school hated me, I was barely allowed to walk at all. I walked by myself as the last student behind a kid in a wheel chair.
Sarah wasn’t rocking $3 million dollars worth of Bulgari jewels back then, she was wearing hemp necklaces, listening to the Grateful Dead, and attending Phish concerts. When I was 18 I got in my car with some friends, her boyfriend at the time included, and I travelled around California for about 3 months, scamming fast food, sleeping in my Datsun 510 with the fake Jaguar hood ornament, using psychedelics, and getting into free concerts. Sarah made a few trips down from Kent to see Tommy (Pizza T) visit, camp, etc. I wasn’t in a band with Tommy yet, but the majority of the people on the trip were. The band was called MUSIC and we would set up shows and they would play them in random towns we’d hit up on the trip. We were notorious for making offensive and/or low quality flyers to advertise. It was 1997 and quite a few such flyers that we made were contsructed from game pieces for contests at a fast food chain that I used to like to scam food from. The game pieces had photos of characters from a big movie that was out that summer. The movie was Batman and Robin starring, none other than George Clooney.
This photo of Sarah above is from that summer tour. It was taken at a spot called Whole in the Wall in Garberville, Ca where we had all slept that night. Some random middle aged naked guy showed up and decided to lounge out for a tan and we actually only took this picture of her so that we could snap him in it and remember that day. That brings me to a quick point. Sarah looks a lot tanner now and her hair isn’t blonde anymore, like it used to be. Another issue that it brings up is that, this was taken 10 years ago and I can’t seem to easily find any pictures of her that are more recent. She was there all of time but nobody seemed to feel the need to hold on to any pictures of her. Around this time I was closer to almost anyone else but her. I was a lot closer with her boyfriend and I actually met him through her. She, unfortunately, began to take on more of the role as someone’s girlfriend who complained a lot. The girl who, when everyone was hanging out and being dirty and happy and crazy and whatever else, seem to be bringing people down. We didn’t give a fuck about anything back then. It was a good time, in fact, it will always be one of the best times of my life. Things were new and exciting, but the metalic nagging shriek of, “TOMMY!” will always ring around like loose change in my memory bank. She was becoming a girl who’s bullshit and complaining sucked everyone into the drama of a relationship that they weren’t even in, through mere proximaty. This feeling continued pretty much until the last time I saw her which was years and years later.
Sure, we’ve kicked it by ourselves in more that one situation and gotten along alright, so I can definitely say that having a significant other there to fire off demands at played a part in lowering her social value, and that’s understandable. She has also played a mediator in a few situations of drama, but I wouldn’t say that was enough to cancel out the amount of drama that she had, at times, created herself. This is why I guarantee her past to unfold in no time. If you are one of the friends that was bitched about, or had to be approached by your friend on behalf of his girlfriend The 2 Coreys style, you have quite a bit of built up anger towards her. If you remember some of the specific drama you might be ready to blow.
Everyone knew she was prone to complaining and frustration, but when “Pizza T” arrived to school at Green River Community College one day after she had punched him in the face and left noticeable proof, it took it to another level. Obviously, he didn’t want to talk about it for too long at the time, it’s not the proudest moment you can have, but he did tell me what happened. She simply got upset about something trivial and punched him. Later, he called her out saying things like, “You fucking punched me in the head, Sarah!” It reminded me of Nanny 911 where things have gone too far and you can’t reverse time, all you can do is try to explain why what they did was excessive and wrong, all the while knowing that you can’t teach them why it’s wrong but can only help them learn that they can’t pull shit like that anymore. Later when we all moved to Olympia to attend The Evergreen State College shit escalated.
A bunch of us lived in a house on North St. across from a Masonic Lodge and down the street from the old Tumwater Brewery. It was a house where the rent was cheap because, otherwise, the owners would have had to pay to make it liveable for humans. There was a giant marijuana tapestry on the ceiling of the living room and from the street, you could see armed Marines in camo face-paint, which were cut from recruitment posters and taped in the windows like they were guarding the house. It was a shit hole and I slept on a couch that was always at least a little damp for some reason. A far cry from a Venice Coctail party. Sarah was always a little high maintenance for our crew, yet she lived in shitty places like this with us. She would talk with Tommy about how she wanted things in the house to be a certain way, or someone to move out, etc. etc. but she moved into a house that others lived in and tried to change it. Everyone else wanted her out because she would yell at everyone. General rule of thumb for anyone: If someone is not fucking you then they don’t have to put up with your shit. It got to the point where, if she ever even approached me with anything I would respond bluntly and firm to whatever she said, and make it clear that I wasn’t going to go into a conversation and listen to any of it. If I didn’t already agree, I don’t already agree, I don’t want anyone to try and work me over. She eventually moved out. She always needed everyone to tend to her and people weren’t getting sympathetic, they were getting pissed. Her powers didn’t work on me. She was just some chick I’d known for years and I was never attracted to her. She always kind of looked like a Gelfling to me anyway, but if she could work sympathy out of her looks she would have. You can’t really blame her, people adjust by what they are shown in through environments.
Sarah eventually rented a room in a house where one of our other good friends and former roommates had moved. There was a garage turned dance studio there. Sarah was still sewing up sundresses and trying to be earthy. She was studying an East Indian dance called Orisi which she would often bust out in the most innappropriate moments. Her “best friend” was my live-in girlfriend and we had our own place at that time. There were situations where I would reluctantly agree to go over to her place and have dinner. She would subtley put down my girlfriend in front of her and would always seem to try and show off her dance moves or body in some way. If I left the room to sit down, she would be in front of me in minutes shaking her hips and blocking my views/pathways. I wanted to put a gun to my dome in those situations. Sarah had made a few advances or inappropriate gestures towards me, even in front of the girlfriend and regardless of the fact that her boyfriend and I were friends. I became resentful in ways because, to me, it seemed like she could be very domineering towards my lady. I always felt that she would use her to make herself feel better. Her advances towards me may not have been necessarily “sexual”, but they were definitely innappropriate. I honestly believe that at the heart of everything was a need for focus and attention to be on her. I don’t think that she could even accept that someone loved someone else that was a good friend of hers, because the attention wasn’t all about her. It wasn’t about me or anyone else, I don’t think, I think it was about having the focus towards her at all times. If you disrespect someone that I love, I lose respect for you, it’s that simple. It’s quite possible that she had a lot going on, herself, that she didn’t verbalize within my earshot.
Sarah eventually hooked up with our former roommate of ours that she was living with in the new house now. Tommy found out and all hell broke loose, as you could imagine. They had been together for 6 years and it ended like that. At that point I was in a band with Pizza T and he would make all of his dramatic and drawn out phonecalls to her from my house. This was probably because I had more of a chill and welcoming environment to deal with such manners in than the chaotic environment he was living in. This was a bad time for me because, since Sarah was “best friends” with my girlfriend, she was always over as well. This drama eminated from my house and I didn’t want it there. I would often comment that I didn’t feel comfortable with her coming over anymore.
I’m still friends with the guy she wound up hooking up with, in fact. I haven’t even talked to Tommy in 2 years. We had a huge falling out which resulted in him blocking me from accessing our bands myspace page and posting bulletins and emails telling everyone (approx. 4,000 fans) that I had died of AIDS. Yeah, were are not friends, but that doesn’t mean that I’m not going to tell this story the way that I saw it. He got fucked over pretty hard and took it pretty hard. The guy she had transitioned to is the one that I’ve been talking with and who turned down offers to talk with publications. Interesting things are coming out from talks with everyone about this whole Clooney situation. The second boyfriend told me that he didn’t even know, until I just told him, that Sarah was still dating Tommy when they hooked up. I was catching the situation from all angles so I know that he sure as fuck thought they were. She said that they hadn’t been together for 3 months but I saw them together all of the time just prior. My girlfriend had seen them together regularly too, but she would relay bullshit like that to me from Sarah. “Well, she says they haven’t been together for 3 months.” Whatever. That’s a random things that some women decide. Don’t guess when you started dating ever! You started dating the minute that they decided that they wanted to in their own heads. Same thing when you break up. If they had decided at some point that they should break up with you and then find someone that they would rather fuck, it’s over and they “already told you“. It helps if they cut you off for a week or so first. That way they can always say that you knew about it. The logic is more than flawed, sure, but I can’t even say that she didn’t believe it. My girlfriend eventually went batshit psycho crazy and disappeared from our home one day. I should have seen it coming she used that same logic on me eventually. Another thing that they both did have in common as friends was that they were a little flighty. They hardcore believed in fairies and wanted to do shit like, “paint magic in the woods” or whatever other mystical bullshit they could think of. My ex-girlfriend once told me that she had actually left milk out for those fucking fairies and Sarah would tell me about transcending her physical body and travelling in spirit form around her house. Maybe they believe that they didn’t cheat on anyone. I don’t know maybe they didn’t. Maybe we don’t have the “magic potions” to see reality. Maybe, but I took the same “magic potions” that they did and probably more of it.
This was all around 2001. From a psychological standpoint, I would say the following. Sarah had been in a 6 year relationship and wanted to move out of it into something “new”. Tommy had the same issues, this was their only really serious relationship. The problems were that she didn’t have the integrity or sense to handle it correctly, from what I saw, and he was allowing it to continue and to be disrepected out of fear of the unknown without her. That’s what happens. It’s your first serious relationship. I got fucked over myself, it’s logical. Sometimes people actually don’t know how to hurt someone to theri face and make young, foolish decisions. Sarah‘s rude awakening happened when she thought that she could pull the same shit on the new guy and it didn’t fly. I know that she had lashed out and tried to strike him in the past too. He blocked it once and she hurt her self. She wasn’t always out punching everyone and being violent, but she was definitely known to trip and act a fool. She had become accustomed to having someone take whatever abuse she chose to dish out, and so she vented in that manner. He kicked her to the curb. The two guy’s became friends again and I saw Sarah out of default, until my girlfriend cooked us up lives as transient mental basketcases.
Last time that I saw Sarah was right after she hooked up with some goon named Dan Randolph. I met him twice, I think. I believe that they came into the Rang Dong once which, in it’s heyday, was the greatest Vietnamese Karaoke bar of all time. He didn’t seem to be very interesting or fitting. They moved to Vegas. Next I hear, she’s on Fear Factor shortly after. She actually wins after that guy basically carries her. Here’s where some debate comes into play. The Fear Factor site labels Sarah Larson as a “Go-Go dancer“. Pizza T‘s letter denies this claim, but it’s just wishful thinking. How would he know? Sorry but it’s true. If you don’t want to hear that and you believe that everything you’ve read on the internet is true, you can stop now. I died of AIDS 2 years ago, so who gives a shit about what I’m about to type anyway? A source I know who worked at the production company for Fear Factor told me that she was scouted Go-Go dancing. I was informed that they actually had to call her down off of a pole to offer her a spot on the show. The problem with tabloids and media is that it’s like the game of telephone. Go-go dancer can be changed very easily into a stripper when skewed. From there, that get’s morphed into hooker and eventually you are a crack whore murderer running a child-porn ring. Apparently, Cocktail waitress gets morphed into Actress/Model fairly easily too, because as far as anyone I know is informed, that’s a load of bullshit too. That’s why nobody can find anything on her, because they are typing in “actress/model” on their search engines, instead of “Random Chicks From Kent“.
With questions like, “Does she want to hide her background?” being asked by Hollywood, she’s becoming an enigma. I don’t know if she is trying to hide anything. I do know that she doesn’t look that comfortable in the pictures that I’ve seen. It’s got to be an overwhelming experience to have to absorb for someone. Maybe nobody has asked her anything. Last I heard she was supposed to marry that guy she was on Fear Factor with, but that obviously didn’t happen. She got a B.S. degree from Evergreen and then up and moved to Vegas. I’m not trying to attack or hurt anyone, but I’m not ashamed of my background and I’ve been in a mental health unit. Then again, I’m not trying to be a politician or a Hollywood darling. She’s just a girl who had occasionally displayed some selfish tendancies and became clearly too high maintenance for the crowd she was involved with. Maybe she felt that she wanted to get “somewhere” even if she didn’t know where that place was. Maybe all that she knew was that her current environments weren’t gong to nurture that. Most likely, she didn’t really piece it together all that in depth, but rather just reacted. She didn’t have a severe drug addiction, or drown a baby. It’s not that interesting. What’s interesting to me is that she went from E to E!, from Patchouli to Prada, from Orisi to Go-go….actually, her Orisi always had quite a bit of Go-Go in it. I say, “Good luck in the game?” I personally would represent where I came from and maybe she will. If I was in her position, I wouldn’t be worrying about how mysterious I might appear to the public. At this point, especially with such drastic transitions, I would be wondering about if I was still a mystery to myself. Your background only has an effect of you if you want something specific to happen. If you are a gangster rapper, the public finding out that you haven’t offed anyone can actually fuck up your career, but, like the slogan for the new Clooney film Michael Clayton states “The Truth Can Be Adjusted“. If anyone knows that, it’s the media.
–Dead C
Not that I believe Sarah Talley is “involved” in this situation, but one of the pictures shown during her “adventure” with George was taken w/her in George’s pool…
Hee Hee…Kelly-Michelle, you make me chuckle. Coochie Gates ends when George is impeached. ;-) Shadow wrote a thoughful response. But Shadow, don’t forget, GC and SL aren’t in a relationship, maybe a business arrangement. Also, very nice commentary on the conservative media. And the deep throat issue conjures up all types of imagery considering what we’ve been exposed to so far.
New Kid: Good call on the Deep Throat question. I thought about SL, but I have to admit that I was thinking with a dirty mind. I guess I was still reeling from the vagina pictures. :-)
Ponder this peeps, cause I’m just wondering. Now, this is not directed as George specifically, but what type of man likes women whose nether regions look like those of a prepubescent female? If a girl is expected to handle things down south, then the guy should get a thorough wax job too. I think it should be in her contract. :-)
George was portrayed as the humble guy and I bought it, but it seems as though he retained he smoke that was blown up his arse for all of those years and it’s infiltrated his brain. Somebody should’ve sat him down and told him that following the dictates of his penis would land him in hot water one day.
Calling Dr. Drew. Calling Dr. Drew.
Yep, I like to clown. I’ll leave the deep insights to others, cause y’all are better at it. But George needs intervention and a trip back home to muck horse stalls. Yeps, sniff some horse crap and get back to reality.
I haven’t finished reading all of the posts. I’ll catch up later.
Peace Out
Shadow- it’s scary that George would want Sarah around so bad that he’d pay her friends to move to LA. Say it ain’t so! Maybe he wants them around so she’ll stop whining and complaining. Speaking of which….George has been known as a guy who doesn’t whine when he’s hurt or something’s wrong, isn’t it interesting that by listening to “little George” he would end of with a high-maintanence whiner? George, you’ve gotta get the whole sex issues under control or they’re gonna get the best of you, dude.
The press probably aren’t interested in this at this point. It only interest us because were once believers, kool aid and all. It turns out that Georgie has been behaving a bit differently behind closed doors than we were told.
Re: the whole George needs to be drunk talk to a woman or whatever. I’m now jaded when it comes to George, so I see these comments as pick-up lines being issued through the press. A woman at home reads an article and she thinks the sexiest man alive is too insecure or shy to talk to a woman when he’s sober? No way! So, the next time he’s out, they’re lined up and willing to help him. He probably also puts on the oh shucks act when he’s out scopin booty. :-) At this stage, George could look me in the eye and tell me that he has brown eyes and I wouldn’t believe him.
Cornish Hen– Enjoyed your thoughts on the whole deal with SL and GC. Sarrah T’s pictures are stank that’s for sure. But we’re gack to George again. He’s the center of this. His choices. He’s been banging cheesy women for a while now, going back to a porn star. I get it. This is what he’s been in to. Don’t know if he wants true love unless it’s with Ms. Labia USA. It’s still Coochie Gate, just a different coochie.
Casey–he did chose her. He chose them all. Just come out, George. We know you like hoochies, okay?
Taz, what up? I just want to hear George say the he is NOT a crook and to sing the praises of Ronald Regan and kiss the feet of Ann Coulter. Ha! j/k
Shadow- I am one women who has no desire to be a paid escort for George Clooney or any other celebrity. But, hey girl, get some naked photos so we can have something else to talk about. ;-)
Sexiest Men Alive- Men serving in the military.
Mystery solved, Cornish Hen? A bared crotch is a bared crotch. Both of these women knew what the were doing. Do you know SL or GC?
Hey, Shadow, pardon me. I responded to the being george’s escort post thinking it was you and it’s Shelly. My bad.
Deep Throat = Cornish Hen? LOL
Coochie Gate deep throat will no other than the man himself, George Clooney. If and when he breaks up with her, he is going to have some splaining to do. They were only on a break in February, yet she was seen at her old job, itching to get back to work!!!! I’m taking bets, it will be Clooney, in joke form as fark-lurker has outlined.
Found this on salon.com, a satirical response to salon’s question: “The celebrity you most suspect of pulling a Winona Ryder and landing on the wrong side of the law in the coming year — and what he/she will stand accused of:” (this was a 2002 questionnaire)…
Commentor says:
“An exhaustive examination of the books for George Clooney’s 9/11 fundraiser will reveal the majority of the profits were skimmed off to pay blackmail to his pet pot-bellied pig so there wouldn’t be a tell-all book describing just how much George likes the ‘other white meat.'”
@Russian Princess:
re: the deep throat – my mind went the same way yours did
Great line by Robin Williams (from ages ago)
“Men only have enough blood to work one brain at a time.”
Kinda sums up this whole farce no?
A few years ago I worked with Bill Maher. He flat out said he prefers women for whom he’s paid. They do what he wants, don’t expect a relationship and go away when he’s done. If he wants to see them again he does, if he does not, he does not there’s no emotional relationship.
When called out on this remark, made on the set, he said the same thing in a printed interview. This is only one interview.
http://datelinehollywood.com/archives/2005/07/25/bill-maher-sues-vanity-fair-for-libel/
Why doesn’t GC just come out and admit it? Certainly didn’t hurt Maher and has long been forgotten except for those of us who were there (I was on employee not the hooker…)
@Russian Princess legal binding contracts cannot include sex clauses. So I may not be able to get those photos, unless he behaves nicely. Hmmm could be a reason him and Larson aren’t getting along lately, she’s probably not performing tricks anymore, and he’s mad.
Russian Princess Hey…just hanging out enjoying all the post! There are some hysterical people here!! LOL Delusional and otherwise!!
As far as GC and SL I think I am disturbed that girls like sarah are being elevated to a socially (?) excepted position. Pam Anderson is a prime example…from her ooopppss videos that keep popping up in the most viewed places to her stripperella cartoon she is nothing but white trash…does she give to wonderful charities…yes…is she someone who should be considered a celebrity…no…she is what she is pandering her wares to who ever will pay for it just like sarah. And saying that, the familiar saying “follow the money” always comes to mind…becauuse…their industry is just the beginning of the money trail and it ,for all intensive purposes, funds child pornography….but let not anyone say it aloud because their reality is much to fragile to withstand the whole truth…perhaps they are too caught up in the money/pleasure they receive to care what happens down the line from their must have vices/lifestyles. Just a thought!
Alot of folks are commenting that SL got on many worst dressed lists, but what people seem to forget is that that is more publicity for her. She gets more mention and more attention. Plus, E doing the little piece on her as well as paige 6 seems to suggest that the more main stream media is doing a little damage control for stan, as well as those modeling pics that just turned up. (29 and a promising modeling career? I think not) I also think she seems bored because most of the questions are for GC, she’s not even close to being the center of attention….. no longer the new GF, no broken toes(if there ever were). GC will always be the reason for the attention, not her, which she probably finds boring, if she usually tries to be the center of attention.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/showbiz/2007/06/18/my-george-89520-19313135/
A BRITISH single mum yesterday told of her secret four-month romance with movie heart-throb George Clooney.
The superstar fell for pretty Sarah Talley, 33, after meeting her in a Las Vegas nightspot….And George was such an old-fashioned gentleman that the pair spent their first two nights together without having sex…George, 46, and a friend had been celebrating wrapping up filming for Ocean’s 13 last December when he met Sarah at a Spearmint Rhino bar, where she was a lapdancer….He said he’d try to squeeze Stonehenge into the conversation because it was very British and that would be his code to say ‘hi’.”
The divorcee eagerly tuned in to the show at the Las Vegas home she shares with mum Christine Lee, 58, and son Dehven, 11.
And Sarah – who moved to the US from Leeds aged 10 – was stunned when, true to his word, he sent the coded message…They went for a romantic meal that evening, before returning to his home to listen to music.
But when it was time for bed, chaste George was content for them to head their separate ways.
Sarah laughingly explained: “When we first arranged the weekend I told him he had to be a good boy. He joked that he had deadlocks on the bedroom doors…She said: “I was away a few weeks and couldn’t use my phone. But the messages had become less frequent and then I suppose we were both so busy they just dried up.”
And the final snippet:Last night the star’s LA-based spokesman Stan Rosenfield would only say: “We don’t discuss Mr Clooney’s personal life.”
Full article at the above link…interesting he won’t discuss the Sarah the Stripper but he won’t even comment on Sarah the rental.
I think GC went rogue on this one and Stan is still doing clean-up
I also leave the chaste comments to those who unlike me, will have nothing polite or politically correct to type. For a change. ;)
God I need sleep and to ditch this cold so the meds unfog my mind or I need better meds, I meant comments about GC being chaste, not chaste comments.
I know better around here and I need a laugh today. Russian Princess I count on you ;)
Well..The ‘divine’ Mrs Catherine Zeta-jones doesn’t comment when mass media question her husband about his job and she really could ….why would you like SL to make it???
But ..seriously..good think is that you make me laught..man!! you are so fucked up for real..lolll.
C.
Where’s cornish hen? Come on, come back and fill us in some more.
hey chuck,
I appreciate the language differences but name calling isn’t nice. When and if you figure out that calling someone you don’t know f*cked up is rude, let me know.
Fer real-like
@new kid
That was a Jay Leno show and he DID mention Stonehenge during that interview. It was odd when he said it, so she may be telling the truth in some parts.
Two days of chasteness is no big deal, really, he could have been waiting for her STD tests results to come back :). She was a stripper and he knew she was one, I’m pretty sure he’s not completely stupid. He probably sent her to his doctor for tests, cause she’s a nasty looking one, she didn;t mention that in the article. The original photo I saw of her, she had all of this adult acne. George Clooney must have self-esteem issues or was without his contacts when he met her.
New Kid…if your cold medicine isn’t working you may have a viral infection…I know I am in the same boat, kinda, I had a cold was getting over the cold , went to visit my baby nephew he had a viral infection so I was exposed to that, got home and my daughter had the flu…well I poo pooed it off , because I have a strong immune system, apparently it isn’t foolproof, now I have bronchitis!! Lots of fun…if herbs do not turn you off go get some Olive Leaf Extract, with no less than 18% oleuropein , it is medicinal value, take for two weeks at recommended dosage. It fights bacterial infections and viral. The Spanish used it to fight off malaria and kick our ass because we were dying off! Oh, and take 1000mg of Vit c, plenty of healthy fluids, colas do not count, homemade chicken soup will help a great deal also, just remember to put several dashes of Cayenne, paprika, and use “real” finely chopped garlic! It also helps with congestion. Last but not least lozenges with zinc, it keeps bacteria from accumulating in the throat. Just in case you are wondering I am not a Dr. I study Botany. But all three of my children have manage to live thru my treatments for them…and not a single one has a cavity!! Their ages you ask…..they just turned 24, 20 and 18… I must have done something right!! LOL
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/25/george-clooney-i-have-to_n_83229.html
I just found out about 10 days ago that I must live 300 or 400 yards from Britney Spears. And I found out cause I came home at 10 at night and there’s all these helicopters over my house with these lights. I’d gone upstairs, and I came out and I’m in a robe. All of the sudden I see all this shit going on.
I have a guest house where my assistant sometimes is, and I think, someone has broken out of prison and like escaped, because it’s a chase scene. It’s something out of “Die Hard.” I get my baseball bat, which is what you always get in every film–I actually think Clive Owen said, “Get a baseball bat”–and I called up my assistant, who I thought was in the guest house, and I said, “Are you OK?”
And she’s like, “Yes.”
And I said, “Look, if there’s someone in the place, say the word ‘Stonehenge’.”
And she’s like, “What the fuck are you talking about? I’m in my apartment.”
I go, “You’re not in the guesthouse?”
“No.”
So I’m, like, “Well, then, what the fuck is going on?” And I go out and I’m running around with a baseball bat in my robe.
And it turns out it’s Britney Spears’ house is like, 300 yards from mine. So now I have to move.
what kind of person would put their hole on the internet for all to see. listen, someone should tell ST her giblets aint’ all that pretty. looked kind a dessicated to me. yes, that’s ST folks, not SL. i don’t know that i believe that story anyway…
@Taz: Thanks for the herbal heads up – I much prefer herbs and homeopathy to chemicals whenever possible.
I still think we need a pool as to when, where and how this will crash and burn. It seems GC is out of control with the strippers, rent girls, drinking, gambling, mid-life crisis and realizing he can’t open films.
@Julia: it was in the British press then repeated in the Star tabloid it has to be true!!! (sarcasm since typed word is awful sometimes in relaying true intent.)
http://admin.signup.universalstudios.com/preview.php?ecrm_formid=502
It’s a contest to win advance tickets to Leatherheads
Sara Talley works at the Rhino and has worked there for a number of months on weekends, her stage name is Arora. Yeah, I stalked her, lol. No, really I asked a friend to look it up. Yes, George was really there and yes he met her. The twin bouncers that work there are friends of George and were in the orginal Ocean’s 11 movie. I think they were the ones that beat up Danny Oceans for the mob guy.
Anyway, Cornish, I love your post, but I do believe your a bit off, if he was seeing Sara T, then why would she have to work at the Rhino on weekends.
My opinion on my girl SL, ok, she has Daddy issues, that is why she needs to be the center of attention and go go dance/flash her areas. She didn’t get what she needed from home, let’s see George is 18 years older. I bet she doesn’t have the closest relationship with her Mom either, that is why she is always trying to become Bi, for even male attention. I can’t deny needing to be the center of attention too, so i guess I get her.
On another note, I had to end it with my sexy 24 year old athletic boy toy. Even though he might of been the hottest guy I have ever seen, I can’t put up with that sort of mistreatment, I do have some standards.
I hope in the end George and Sara find what they really want. George to meet all his horny bisexual honies. Sara to find her older male who will give her the attention that she needs…
to see a younger GC, watch ‘from dusk ’til (until?) dawn’ directed by robert rodrqiuez. 1996. warning: gory (but fun). besides the titty bar in mexico sequence (only rodriguez and tarantino could come up with this), i enjoyed the bonus material/outakes.
The world is going to end, our favorite siren, in our favorite car wreck, now has a wikipedia entry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Larson
It is up for possible deletion. Hopefully it wil be deleted, she’s done nothing noteworthy except for dating GC and there’s a whole lot of women who can claim that title.
Thank You Deadc for posting my comment…I know you don’t censor much because you actually believe in free speech , but because child pornography seems to be a hush hush topic I wasn’t sure how it would be received. So thank you again.
Taz
Italian media outlet TGCOM reported that George Clooney has confirmed he will get engaged and has chosen the Lake of Como as the place for the festivities.
The Ocean’s Thirteen star is set to break millions of hearts and get engaged with long-time girlfriend Sarah Larson.
The owner of an posh Italian restaurant confirmed to the Italian news agency that “Americans” have reserved the place for a date during the month.
Beautiful girlfriend with a classic Italian background. Typical George.
http://www.maltastar.com/pages/msrv/msfullart.asp?an=19412
Well they DO qualify as Americans
They may be erroneously reporting based on the Dubai mistake last year. I don’t see any other news agencies reporting what I would assume would be THE engagement of the year if it proves true.
http://www.ahlanlive.com/922-clooney-engagement-qjust-a-mistakeq
How sad that “long term relationship” means “hooked up for less than a year”.
If this is true we should all send him condolence cards!
Shelley – “could have been waiting for her STD test results to come back” LMAO Priceless!
Italian media outlet reporting George is getting engaged to “long-time girlfriend”… well fuck me – first time I’ve ever heard that dating someone on and off for a couple of months makes them a “long time girlfriend”! (Of course this is George we’re talking about so maybe that part makes sense – LOL!)
I know the world is speeding up but this is ridiculous. I think that “posh Italian restaurant” just needed some publicity! Oh and since when did Sarah become a “beautiful girlfriend with a classic Italian background”? Did I miss something? Is she Italian? Looks part Asian to me!
So entertaining here!
Maybe the engagement is in lieu of a Christmas bonus?
Sadly, in Hollyweird 6 months IS a long time, kinda like calculating the age of your pet in dog years.
6 months must be the silver anniversary?
Justwannapokemyeyesout…i guess when you dating george you can not only change your past life , but your ethnicity as well!! He must be her fairy god????father!!! LMFO
http://www.laineygossip.com/George_Clooney_parties_with_Rande_Gerber_at_Stone_Rose.aspx
From Esquire magazine April 2008 issue:
“I show him an article that appeared in a Canadian newspaper….psychic predicted he would marry in 2008…”I (GC) think that wedding one is a bit ahead of its time….the writer states this is the same psychic who predicted Steve Irwins death, he remains unimpressed.”
Sounds like a luke-warm denial of marriage to rent-a-dancer. From the article this was done when he was in NYC prior to his Darfur trip.
Nerd triva: George Clooney played Batman. George’s first wife was named Talia. Batman had a relationship with Talia al Ghul. Interesting eh?
Okay heard something very interesting this morning…
The fricking alarm went off at 5:30 a.m. and usually I just slap the snooze button but the radio was set to KIIS FM in Los Angeles. Ryan Seacrest of American Idol hosting / E! etc. was talking about a new Ashton Krutcher show that punks the paps.
Ryan mentioned that a dinner date Paris Hilton had may be part of the show.
Now here’s the interesting comment. Ryan says, “I hear there are some big name celebrities participating in this punking of the press. Maybe that’s what George Clooney was doing on the red carpet with that girl. ”
He called her “girl” not her name, which I’m sure he knows! Not his girlfriend, fiance – nope – just called her “girl.” He said he was going to try to get Ashton to tell him some of the celebs who are participating in the show.
Personally, I don’t think Ashton’s gonna give it up since the show hasn’t premiered yet and based on the USA article even E! — where the show will air– was punk’d!! But I found Ryan’s comments hilarious!
Here are some links to blogs/articles about the show.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2008-03-05-kutcher-show_N.htm
http://tv.hollyscoop.com/pop-fiction/ashton-kutchers-new-pop-fiction-show_510.aspx
http://www.celebitchy.com/9894/diddy_and_cameron_diaz_one_of_ashton_kutchers_planted_stories/
Maybe Stan has found a way for George to back out of this fiasco after all… Of course, that could backfire too – would make George seem even more of a liar.
Yep the Sarah Talley story is true. In the past when GC has been falsely linked to women — if the woman doesn’t deny the “romance” right away then GC either denies it himself with a direct quote or his PR guy Stan does, and he denies it IMMEDIATELY. I’ve seen GC come out with rapid denials when a supposed romance was only at the rumor stage. This one had pictures and details. Believe me, if it wasn’t true GC would have been very quick to deny it. Especially because he was also dating someone else at the time — Jennifer Aguero. Yet not a peep, not a whisper from GC’s camp. And this man denies romance rumors, let alone full blown articles and pictures.
The story was unseemly, not because Talley is a skank, hell everyone already knew about his relationship with skanky-pants Krista Allen (among others). It’s that the time frame for dating GC that the two women gave over-lapped for about three months. That he was dating both tarts at the same time looked bad. GC’s strategy — lay low, stay silent about both women, don’t discuss either one. Silence.
There’s no reason to make up a relationship just to deal with it. Just stay quiet and everyone will forget about it when five minutes later he spotted with someone else.
From a PR stand point that strategy worked very well. In a couple of months Sarah Larson and Monika Jakisic were alternately photographed with GC over the summer and no one cared about Talley and Aguero anymore.
Shout out to y’all. :-)
Shadow- I’m venting. I’m not coming from the political angle, although I’ve made comments involving politics. It was angry sarcasm in part. I was amazed at the irony/hypocrisy of things. I am disppointed. Will the real George Clooney please stand up? I have no intention of taking photos to some media outlet. I could care less. My anger doesn’t extend that far. That’s not my thing. It’s the manipulation of the media and those involved in it. It’s how some people skate by while others suffer, the injustice. The rich and the powerful can get out of things that most of us can’t. It’s not just the Sarah thing. It’s also the contents of the Radar magazine article. A part of me wishes Fabio would’ve knocked him out. :-)
The good thing about this is that I see things more evenly now. I was one that would go see one of his movies pretty soon after it opened. I believed the good guy image that was presented. I drank the kool aid. But it’s my money and I can spend it how I want. I have no ties of fan loyalty anymore. I don’t hate him. I want things to get better for him because I don’t want him to die prematurely or end up in a mess because of who knows what. And if I am wrong about anything, then I hope he proves me wrong.
George can date, have sex with, or do whatever with anyone he chooses, but don’t invent an alter ego. Or be a man and be who you are and deal with the consequences. Considering the backlash of the fans, was it all worth it?
George, don’t be so naive that you think one political party is the end all-be all. Members of both political parties have done some crappy stuff, and some of them have been in bed together and getting rich off of all kinds of things. So, no party is better than the other because in one way or another, there is guilt on all sides. As you can see no one is perfect, neither you nor I. Peace
Taz, I guess some of this stuff is funny. Some of the pictures are really yucky though. This is gonna die down. But I’ve changed as a result.
New Kid-get your mind out of the gutter. :-)
Shelly- I don’t want you to get sued. I really don’t want to see George naked anyways.
I can say at least one good thing about this. At least George doesn’t prey on virgins.
I hope that our society stops putting celebrites on pedastals.
They’re all just his past toys. Mark my words: THE one is coming. You won’t mistake her.
;)
@Princess
We will never stop putting celebs on a pedestal because we so enjoy see them knocked down. It’s a sick trait that has plagued the human race since Lilith got tossed because Eve got pissed.
@Cornish
You seem to imply THE one is already here, is this just a prelude so we’ll not cave over in shock when s/he shows up?
If she’s coming is it FedEx, UPS or C.O.D.?
I agree, GC can do whatever he wants with whomever he wishes, I’d like to think it’s all been consentual. I also think he’s not consistent in his denials and his talk in all areas. As my Dad used to say if he turns around fast he’ll hit himself in the face (GC not my Dad.)
Much has been made in the press about GC’s night out at Gerber’s new club – that was a press move. New club, GC, chatting up fans, hmmm walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.
The only thing GC owes to me is a good performance for my ten bucks I paid at the Cineplex. That doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy good dish, heck I read this blog :)
SL has been as guilty of duplicity as GC, she knew the job was dangerous when she took it (I love SuperChicken –am I that old?) She knew she’d face public scrutiny regarding her past, that the relationship had an expiration date and that she’d be crucified for every right or wrong whether implied, true or cooked up by a good PR firm.
Still no denial regarding the engagement story, Stan on vacation?
FEH, party in the gutter, I’ll bring the beer.
Russian Princess I’ve had the same type of thoughts for a while now not just regarding George but also about our government officials / political candidates / CEO’s / business owners, etc.
I think much of the educated and informed public (not those who believe anything the press doles out like pablum without doing any research and reading on their own) is getting weary of the very things you mention in your post.
The rich getting away with behavior that we find unacceptable yet expecting us to just shut up and pony up our cash – whether it be to see their movies or to donate to their causes or campaigns or to buy their products, etc.
One thing about the internet though, despite its often rampant inaccuracies, when it gets it right, it’s out there for all the world to see. And it has certainly evened the playing field a bit. What politicians and celebrities had gotten away with in the past (and not gotten reported on) is now not so easy to do.
Sure, George and Stan were able to shut up the mainstream press but they can’t shut up everyone, can they? They can’t pay off everyone either – not necessarily in cash but in access. “Hey, you say bad things and George won’t talk to you.”
Well, there will come a time, very soon, where what George says will be worth very little and then all the enemies he made will come out of the woodwork and start ripping his life apart.
I agree with you – George (and anyone who is asking me to accept their point of view, pay for their films, vote for them for office) had better be coming from the truth or when it comes out they lied, it will be worse than what they tried to cover up.
I was thinking about how much the US has changed – or at least my perception of what I thought this country was. To think that we, who were so integral in the Geneva Convention, could so easily disregard what we had agreed to is beyond my understanding.
You’re correct about the two parties – I think that’s why so many people are switching to Independent status. This current infighting between Clinton and Obama tells me that nothing has changed. If Clinton has nothing to hide, then why doesn’t she release her income information? And as to Obama, for a candidate advocating change, his advisers seem to be advising him to the same tactics that have been pulled by both sides for years. Where is the “change” in this?
George lies and expects us to just swallow it because he’s such a “nice regular guy” despite his wealth now.
Okay, I give him that he worked his ass off to get where he’s gotten; I give him that he wasn’t an overnight success; I give him that he has made films with social commentary, but where’s the integrity in his personal life?
Your comments “be a man and be who you are and deal with the backlash” are on point.
I just came from a watching a flick called “The Bank Job.” Based on a true story of events that occurred in the early to mid 70’s in Britain. Apparently, the reason they got away with it was that they made a deal with MI5 or 6 because of the number of incriminating photos of senior members of the government and I’m going to say “alleged” photos of Princess Margaret in a threesome. Since I don’t know if that part is true I won’t comment on it.
But it’s another example of those in power who think they are above the laws and standards (whether actual or moral) that the rest of us are expected to abide by. Where does this mentality come from? Is there some sort of secret initiation when you become a member of government that we don’t see or hear when they swear to uphold the laws and the constitution? “Do you swear to uphold the constitution?” Loudly, “Yes.” In a whisper, “By the way, you’re allowed to fuck anyone you want and take bribes from any lowlife lobbiest that you want as long as you’re not caught and there are no photos, is that okay with you? Loudly, “Yes!”
Was there some sort of hidden agreement and clause when we purchased our movie ticket, or picked up that DVD or music CD in our local discount store?
Did we somehow agree to look the other way when the celebrity that speaks about truth gets caught lying? Clause 978, subsection 32, paragraph 15 – “Hey luv, just bugger off when you see me with me latest skank, but my film opens April 4th – be there early – and catch a couple of showings while you’re at it!”
One standard for the rich, the powerful and the connected; a different standard for everyone else. No wonder I wake up pissed off some mornings!
I should clarify that the movie I mentioned is a fictionalized version of a true bank heist – I just wasn’t sure how much was fictionalized – but I did some checking and found more info.
One film reviewer, states that the screenwriters did manage to “reference every sex scandal in recent British government history” and have incorporated it into reasons why the film’s characters were able to get away with it.
Apparently, in the real robbery, the robbers got away with it – no arrests were ever made and no safe deposit box contents were ever recovered.
At the end of the film some statistics were noted – again not sure if real or not – however they stated that over 100 box owners refused to divulge the contents of their boxes; Scotland Yard went through a corruption purge and a number of senior members of governement resigned.
Was it incriminating photos? Or “heads must roll” because such a bank heist could have been so successful on someone’s watch?
Fictionalized or not – I’m sure some of this is truer than we might ever know.
Ah come on cornish. Give us something more. The one will come in due time for right now, give us the dish on Larson and George. How much longer? Come on, spill :)
Perhaps Cornish is the wo/man of which s/he speaks?
Perhaps it’s Angel, spilling the guts on her boss?
Perhaps it’s Nina, voicing wishful thinking?
Perhaps it’s just as good a guess as the rest of us have, folks who claim to have inside knowledge but then refuse to discuss it further or name a source are as suspect as, say, a magazine article that quotes “a friend.”
For the record, if anyone cares, my sources are all the internet. I’m a freelance fact-checker & researcher, I have access to some database that aren’t available on the free internet…paid sites, subscription sites, etc.
Being bored while sick, I am the worst patient known to mankind, I set up a spider to tell me if anyone did a search for GC home address/telephone number. I’ve gotten a few hits, 2 of which originated in Kent, Washington.
They’ll get nothing but a long list of Clooney’s – but who knows if they keep dialing all the telephone numbers in the 818 area code they’ll eventually hit upon his home telephone.
And now we go from contemplative to the absurd…
http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/clloner__oPt.jpg
From Perez Hilton:
This just made us giggle!!!!
People has a preview of George Clooney’s new cover story for Esquire magazine.
When Esquire discovers a Web site that calls Clooney “gay, gay, gay,” the good-natured actor quips, “No, I’m gay, gay. The third gay – that was pushing it.”
:-)
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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20182302,00.html
George Clooney: Fabio Could ‘Probably’ Beat Me Up
By Christina Tapper
Originally posted Saturday March 08, 2008 09:20 AM EST
George Clooney: Fabio Could ‘Probably’ Beat Me Up
What do you do when Donald Trump pokes fun at your height and Fabio threatens to beat you up? If you’re George Clooney, you take it all in stride – and make a couple jokes, of course.
The Michael Clayton star, 46, agreed to a good-natured Googling session in the April issue of Esquire magazine, and in it he’s asked about a laundry list of recent rumors about him – including his reported run-in with I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter pitchman Fabio.
When asked about his alleged feud with Fabio last fall (in which the model said he could beat Clooney up), the actor responds, “Yeah, that’s probably true. He’s a big guy. There is a moment when you are actually in the argument and you’re thinking, ‘If I do get beaten down by Fabio, that will be far worse than the pain. I wouldn’t shake that.”
Also found in the magazine’s Web search:
• When Esquire discovers a Web site that calls Clooney “gay, gay, gay,” the good-natured actor quips, “No, I’m gay, gay. The third gay – that was pushing it.”
• Donald Trump’s recent “short guy” comments about Clooney. George, who is 5- feet 11-inches tall, responds, “I saw Donald Trump on Larry King and he was saying, ‘Clooney is a very short guy. I mean he’s a tiny guy.’ I’ve met Donald Trump once, and I was sitting at a table. He came over, shook my hand, and walked away. I guess I looked about three foot five sitting at that table.”
• They also surface a quote from Rupert Everett criticizing Clooney’s Ocean’s movies as a “cancer,” to which Clooney replies: “Where did that come from? You kind of go, Dude, weren’t you in Dunston Checks in?”
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And now for the longest URL in history:
http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/03/09/style/t/index.html?WT.mc_id=TM-D-E-ESQ-AD-5005-TM2-HP-0308-MENS&WT.mc_ev=click&excamp=TM-D-E-ESQ-AD-5005-TM2-HP-0308-MENS#pagewanted=0&pageName=09ClooneyW&
An interview with George in NY Times online
And Cornish, is Larson set for life or what?